AMD = Crash, Intel = Stable ?

[Kriima]

Just an impression I have, reading the various articles, reviews, and what people say on the forums. Everytime someone says the game is stable, they have an Intel CPU. All those who crash have an AMD. Can you guys confirm ?

[finn]

Messaggio originale di TheReciever:

Messaggio originale di Bowlcut:

Maybe you just don't care to actually keep up with both sides of CPU technology?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/antonyleather/2020/08/13/intels-surprise-ryzen-killer-alder-lake-hybrid-processors-offer-biggest-performance-leap-in-14-years/#763ad0544f5f

I'd be a little worried if I were AMD right now. AMD are already struggling to keep up let alone performances increases we've not seen in over a decade! Get ready to use my discount code.

The whole article starts on a hedged statement. Not a real vote of confidence there.

Not going to argue which is better from a literal raw viewpoint. Intel has the performance crown, but without AMD, Intel would face other issues and that goes both ways of course.

Intel could just go back to installing L4 cache on their CPU's and watch the performance jump from just that alone but they dont like the price tag for manufacturing it. I mean there is a reason why 5775c trades blows with a 7700k @ 5.0Ghz and the DDR4 memory that comes with it.

https://www.purepc.pl/procesory/broadwell_niszczyciel_test_core_i5_5675c_i_core_i7_5775c?page=0,30

Not in english but the performance metrics are there.

My P750ZM will be enjoying the 5775c and a GTX 1080 pretty soon here. Could've gone with the Ryzen Helios 500 from Acer but they already killed support for it so I also lost interest. Not bad for a 2013 15.6" laptop.

Sure, valid points. I never denied that AMD serves a purpose and AMD's success helps Intel consumers.

Imma unsub from this topic, though. Feel like we're going around in circles.

[PossiblePsycho]

Ryzen 1600X, not a single crush in 49 hours.

[Zephyro76]

I have a R5 3600X, 32Gb ram and the game crash @every cutscene

[SpinDie426]

i havent crashed yet LOOK AT ME LOOK AT ME

[Fremie]

Im rocking a Ryzen 7 3700x + Sapphire Nitro+ 5700 XT and my frames are 100+ and no lag skips, as stable as it gets.

[mh2x]

from 36 hrs gameplay, only crash once, R5 3600 stock

[topgun43]

This "crap" port is doomed. Save your money....much better on it's way.

[HyJacker]

issues in the beginning but besides that its ran well. i7 9700f

[vigilantwiseguy]

No crashes on AMD FX6200 (yes, I know, super old). No crashes on laptop i7-8750h but crashes occasionally on desktop i7-4770k...soooo...yeah, seems like luck of the draw to me. Devs are looking into it, I'm interested to see what they find.

[Ad Hominem]

38 hours in game, first crash tonight. Gonna chalk that up to a fluke I guess.

[Skullson]

Messaggio originale di Bowlcut:

Messaggio originale di Pontifex Maximus:

This is coming from the absolute idiot saying AMD are gonna cave themselves in when Intel unleashes 10nm, when there's so much evidence to the contrary. I'll have whatever you are smoking.

There is literally zero evidence to support otherwise. Amazes me that Intel control a massive majority of server CPUs and gaming rig CPUs yet we're lead to believe AMD are doing great? Aren't they just over 20% of CPUs collected by Steams hardware survey? Imagine being AMD and losing to a company which still hasn't released a 10nm CPU...But still beats you consistently on that 14nm CPU.

I do love it when AMD fanboys try to say Intel are worse lmao

Goalpost moving again? Never said Intel are worse, just that your unfounded AMD collapse ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ is nothing more than that.

LMAO imagine using steam hardware survey as a legitimate source. How about using actual information from retailers? Which again shows AMD outselling Intel by massive margins. Oh yeah you've got me, Intel's best beats AMD in gaming by between 5-10% if you have a 2080ti but needs to draw well more than twice the power to do so. Yeah you've really showed me! Gotta love Shintel fan boys who are actually losing their grip on reality. Thanks for the laughs though.

[Ad Hominem]

Messaggio originale di Pontifex Maximus:

LMAO imagine using steam hardware survey as a legitimate source. How about using actual information from retailers? Which again shows AMD outselling Intel by massive margins. Oh yeah you've got me, Intel's best beats AMD in gaming by between 5-10% if you have a 2080ti but needs to draw well more than twice the power to do so. Yeah you've really showed me! Gotta love Shintel fan boys who are actually losing their grip on reality. Thanks for the laughs though.

Intel does control more volume in the market right now, but that's been years or even decades in the making and isn't going to change overnight.

[bshock]

Nah, I dont think so. Ryzen 9 4200HS here and it's never crashed. I just get texture flickering after the patch.

[Skullson]

Messaggio originale di Ad Hominem:

Messaggio originale di Pontifex Maximus:

LMAO imagine using steam hardware survey as a legitimate source. How about using actual information from retailers? Which again shows AMD outselling Intel by massive margins. Oh yeah you've got me, Intel's best beats AMD in gaming by between 5-10% if you have a 2080ti but needs to draw well more than twice the power to do so. Yeah you've really showed me! Gotta love Shintel fan boys who are actually losing their grip on reality. Thanks for the laughs though.

Intel does control more volume in the market right now, but that's been years or even decades in the making and isn't going to change overnight.

Absolutely and I wouldn't claim to dispute that. This was more aimed at that idiot citing AMD's immediate collapse based on nothing whatsoever.

[Ad Hominem]

Messaggio originale di Pontifex Maximus:

Messaggio originale di Ad Hominem:

Intel does control more volume in the market right now, but that's been years or even decades in the making and isn't going to change overnight.

Absolutely and I wouldn't claim to dispute that. This was more aimed at that idiot citing AMD's immediate collapse based on nothing whatsoever.

Yea that individual drank the intel koolaid pretty hard. Tried telling me about intel's superiority in workstation CPUs as well. Aside from adobe suite software where intel spent a lot of time and money working along side the software developers of course. I'm not even an AMD fanboi, I own both in current machines and have owned both over the years. I would remind people how wrong they are when they talk about intel's impending collapse as well.

I personally think that the whole multiple chiplets connected by an IO die is the way of the future, as more and more software is taking advantage of multi threading when possible. Manufacturing costs are lowered because you have less duds come off the line vs monolithic, which becomes more and more important the smaller your process is. And if I'm right about that then AMD has a big advantage in the fact that they have the 'infinity fabric' designed already and can iterate on that rather than starting from scratch. That's just pure speculation on my part though. We have already seen a learning curve from that design CPU with the OS needing to effectively schedule to avoid latency penalty you get from crossing chiplets when you don't need to.