Horizon Zero Dawn is Unoptimized

[SnowBlack&D7BBC]

For Mainstream and above rigs, why should we compromise just to play this port? e.g deactivate Twitch, Skype, forced Anistrophic filter, reduce shadow, deactivate overlay.... This Sheet ain't Crysis ok.

[Mr. Rubber Ducky]

Origineel geplaatst door necrowords:

Origineel geplaatst door Odin:

It's name is Little-Zen and it's kinda a small ITX build, which is also effectively my first build.
- AMD Ryzen 5 1600X
- Zotac Gaming GTX 1660 Super Dual Fan
- ASRock Fatal1ty AB350 Gaming-ITX/ac
- DDR4 Crucial Ballistix Red 2x4GB@2400MHz

It's bad.. so bad

And how is your DDr4 so damn slow?

So you bought a half decent mobo, and stuck on a lousy cpu.. the memory could be significantly better since you're not even using the full capability of the mobo.. and you toss on the cheapest zotac pos 1660.. You're practically using a downgraded xbox 360 to play games on.

pc master race cannibalizing each other now? dude his system is fine for 1080p gaming his cpu is a bit old but its better than an fx series amd cpu and even that wont bottleneck his gpu anyways his gpu is over the recommended spec for the game so he has a right to be upset about his performance

+ I can upgrade my CPU anytime, all I need is a simple BIOS update and money.
So there's no need to bash someone over him having a tight budget imo, I will still gradually upgrade it and stuff, I'm just a student after all. And also, I agree with necrowords points

[Quagimus Decimus]

Origineel geplaatst door necrowords:

Origineel geplaatst door Odin:

It's name is Little-Zen and it's kinda a small ITX build, which is also effectively my first build.
- AMD Ryzen 5 1600X
- Zotac Gaming GTX 1660 Super Dual Fan
- ASRock Fatal1ty AB350 Gaming-ITX/ac
- DDR4 Crucial Ballistix Red 2x4GB@2400MHz

It's bad.. so bad

And how is your DDr4 so damn slow?

So you bought a half decent mobo, and stuck on a lousy cpu.. the memory could be significantly better since you're not even using the full capability of the mobo.. and you toss on the cheapest zotac pos 1660.. You're practically using a downgraded xbox 360 to play games on.

pc master race cannibalizing each other now? dude his system is fine for 1080p gaming his cpu is a bit old but its better than n fx series amd and even that wont bottle neck his gpu anyways his gpu is over the recommended spec for the game so he has a right to be upset about his performance

Yes, his system is great if you want to play 10 year old games.. at the rate things are going he's going to be playing cyberpunk with a resolution of 320x480p on lowest settings.

His gpu is rated over the recommended specs for the game... lol? Those are "guesses" by the developers as you've seen people are getting ass fps even on 2080ti's.

[Mr. Rubber Ducky]

Origineel geplaatst door Odin:

Origineel geplaatst door necrowords:

pc master race cannibalizing each other now? dude his system is fine for 1080p gaming his cpu is a bit old but its better than n fx series amd and even that wont bottle neck his gpu anyways his gpu is over the recommended spec for the game so he has a right to be upset about his performance

Yes, his system is great if you want to play 10 year old games.. at the rate things are going he's going to be playing cyberpunk with a resolution of 320x480p on lowest settings.

His gpu is rated over the recommended specs for the game... lol? Those are "guesses" by the developers as you've seen people are getting ass fps even on 2080ti's.

10 year old games? I literally can fire up 2020 productions and play them 1080p V.High/Ultra settings, the ♥♥♥♥ you're smokin mate.

The fact people get horrible framerate with 2080Ti's is because *drum roll* game is unoptimized, who would've thought! But no, it's this dude whose PC is trash. lmao

[SnowBlack&D7BBC]

Origineel geplaatst door Trouser_Dune_Worm:

OP:

For the past three days you have been criticizing anyone who has had performance issues or crashing...

Usually with responses like, "Your PC is trash" etc...usually responses that are very childish and rude. One only needs to look at your post history to see this.

Curious, that you have had such a change of heart all of a sudden and now it's "unoptimized"?

I had earlier posts. I have no issues running the game at Ultra and even finished that game on the weekends. Then I realized massive CPU bumps when I tried running it simultaneously with other apps I normally run while gaming like Twitch and Skype, then I encounter the crash message. I noticed the cpu bump via the Adrenaline performance display. It only happens on this game. I owned all Crysis games and Ryse son of rome and those Unoptimized game perform better than HZD unfortunately I must admit 😬

[Ancient]

Origineel geplaatst door SenMithrarin85:

Origineel geplaatst door JohnnyMax7:

Getting 60fps locked at 1440 Favor Quality and 60fps locked at 4K Original with adaptive performance 60

Ryzen 3800X, RTX 2080 Super, 32GB Predator RGB 3200 O.C. 3600 1.35v 17-19-19-19-41

no you're not. my 1080 at 1080p is struggling to hold 60 in that "proving area". a 2080 super is only 12 fps or so on me, so you're not getting a locked 60 at 1440p

I'm getting 55-65 FPS at 1440p, Favor Quality on a GTX 1080: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2193723347

Granted, my GTX 1080 is an EVGA FTW model running a custom OC curve which gets it up to 2038-2063MHz core (depending on temp) and I run it at a semi-extreme +642MHz mem.

Also, an RTX 2080S is not "only 12fps or so" vs a GTX 1080. More like +30 FPS at 1080p and +24 FPS average at 1440p in H0D: https://imgur.com/a/JXTUtId

You're grossly underestimating how much better a 2080S is. A GTX 1080 is now more closely equivilent to an RTX 2060S or 2070, with the 2070S and above being significantly superior due to their core counts, core clocks and memory bandwidth, especially compared to a standard FE card or more ♥♥♥♥♥-basic AIB like a Windforce or other cheaper AIB models that used low-binned chips to start with. A 2080/2080S/2080 Ti will bury a GTX 1080 by 10-15% or more so as memory bandwidth ultimately becomes the defining performance factor at 1440p widescreen or 4K where it's the bitrate and memory clock (ultimate memory bandwidth) that determines the GPU's raw FPS limitations.

Our older 1080s are limited, even in performance AIB models like I have by the fact they can only realistically push 10-12-ish GB per clock (12 GB with overclocks and good memory ICs, VRMs and cooling that can safely power them above stock) of memory bandwidth. The 2080S starts with 15.5 GB per clock of memory bandwidth before any overclocks and has +~500 shader cores we do not have when it comes to shader operations.

[ProkC]

Origineel geplaatst door Macho Chunko:

Origineel geplaatst door Mr. Rubber Ducky:

fellas is it bad to play games on 1920x1080 now?

Your gamer score(and member length) is proportional to the resolution you play your games at. Obviously anything bellow 4K is for casuals, plebians and the impotent of the male sex.

Love when the trolls drop by to say hi

[Quagimus Decimus]

Origineel geplaatst door Mr. Rubber Ducky:

Origineel geplaatst door Odin:

Yes, his system is great if you want to play 10 year old games.. at the rate things are going he's going to be playing cyberpunk with a resolution of 320x480p on lowest settings.

His gpu is rated over the recommended specs for the game... lol? Those are "guesses" by the developers as you've seen people are getting ass fps even on 2080ti's.

10 year old games? I literally can fire up 2020 productions and play them 1080p V.High/Ultra settings, the ♥♥♥♥ you're smokin mate.

The fact people get horrible framerate with 2080Ti's is because *drum roll* game is unoptimized, who would've thought! But no, it's this dude whose PC is trash. lmao

That's why every game you play is 10 years old or older.. ya mate I am sure your potato can do 60fps ultra on new games LOL

Before you start talking about optimization understand what it implies.
Often when a developer starts tweaking "optimizing" they're lowering the quality of different systems so potatoes can get those "high" frames muh dewd.

[XxzodazZ]

Origineel geplaatst door Jotaro Ace:

Well I played Horizon yesterday, barely went over midnight FYI. And it ran absurdly well for me. I have no idea why I was so scared.

i5-9600K and a GTX 1070 Ti. 8+8 GB of RAM.

Not sure if it was a glitch but task manager said it was only using 2% of my GPU but 6.5 of the 8 GB of VRAM on it. Then it only used about 5 GB of RAM and 40% of my CPU. Couldn't believe how well it was running despite hearing things like RTX 2080's not being able to run it and the rest about stutters and crashing. No crashes or any issues for me in all my playtime.

For the record my RTX 2080 runs it just fine;)

[no.monogamers]

Really? No, imposible. In Guerrilla Games ports are conceived for finance future PS5 games provide enjoyable experiences with maximun quality.

[xPreatorianx]

Origineel geplaatst door marsHm311oW:

Im playing with gtx 960 on high without crashes or anything, so dont know what you are talking about.

I call absolute ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ on this. I'm running a 970 and getting horrible framerates. So you are either full of it, or somehow got a dev build with a new patch. I can't run this game for ♥♥♥♥! I can run Death Stranding perfectly though. (Not maxed out mind you, but given my GPU, reasonable at 45 to 55FPS.)

This game? Max 40 FPS, average of around 33 to 35 with tons of sub 30 dips. So again, I call BS.

EDIT: FYI, I'm running the game @ 2560x1080, with Digital Foundry's optimized settings. Meaning a mixture of medium (PS3 grade settings) with one or two settings at low or high. I'm not trying to crank this game. Just enjoy PS3 level graphics at higher resolution. So for a 960 to somehow be running it better? Ya I call absolute BS.

[HairballHacker]

Origineel geplaatst door Mr. Rubber Ducky:

Origineel geplaatst door JohnnyMax7:

Getting 60fps locked at 1440 Favor Quality and 60fps locked at 4K with adaptive performance 60

Ryzen 3800X, RTX 2080 Super, 32GB Predator RGB 3200 O.C. 3600 1.35v 17-19-19-19-41

"I'm getting 149235982343290fps on my rig that costs fortune to build! Why is everyone else complaining?"

You have a quantum computer too? Cool.

[CROSSEYED_JIM]

Origineel geplaatst door SenMithrarin85:

Origineel geplaatst door JohnnyMax7:

Getting 60fps locked at 1440 Favor Quality and 60fps locked at 4K Original with adaptive performance 60

Ryzen 3800X, RTX 2080 Super, 32GB Predator RGB 3200 O.C. 3600 1.35v 17-19-19-19-41

no you're not. my 1080 at 1080p is struggling to hold 60 in that "proving area". a 2080 super is only 12 fps or so on me, so you're not getting a locked 60 at 1440p

I'm well above 60 (75-80 average) almost all the time at 1440, and I'm only on a 2070S (paired with an 8700K @ 4.7 and 32 GB RAM). I've never seen the game dip below 60 in any area after 12 hours.

The RAM usage for this game is off the charts. I strongly suspect limited physical memory has a lot more to do with the issues people are having than GPU or CPU.

[Replica]

Origineel geplaatst door xPreatorianx:

Origineel geplaatst door marsHm311oW:

Im playing with gtx 960 on high without crashes or anything, so dont know what you are talking about.

I call absolute ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ on this. I'm running a 970 and getting horrible framerates. So you are either full of it, or somehow got a dev build with a new patch. I can't run this game for ♥♥♥♥! I can run Death Stranding perfectly though. (Not maxed out mind you, but given my GPU, reasonable at 45 to 55FPS.)

This game? Max 40 FPS, average of around 33 to 35 with tons of sub 30 dips. So again, I call BS.

EDIT: FYI, I'm running the game @ 2560x1080, with Digital Foundry's optimized settings. Meaning a mixture of medium (PS3 grade settings) with one or two settings at low or high. I'm not trying to crank this game. Just enjoy PS3 level graphics at higher resolution. So for a 960 to somehow be running it better? Ya I call absolute BS.

He might not be, a) 1080p and b) unoptimized means the same specs perform wildly different and someone's weaker computer might outdo someone who has a stronger one because how the game accesses the hardware is wildly inconsistent.