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Dionysus 🐭 Jul 28, 2020 @ 8:45pm
Will PC Support Checkerboard Rendering?
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Originally posted by Super Bambaspis:
It's not about that, word around the water cooler has it that Sony has a patent on the technique used to checkerboard Horizon on the PS4, and they aren't about to allow it to plop on over to PC. Apparently there is something in that there PS4 that makes checkerboarding an efficient and worthwhile thing to actually do - and it wouldn't just "work" on PC - Who knows if that's true, but they don't want their precious checkerboard code splayed open on the relatively unsecure PC platform for us to all peep at.

Also saying that checkerboard is better quality than native 1440p, well... there are many that would argue that point. And I'm one of them.

But you have your answer there - You wont see checkerboarding on PC, probably ever. PC has it's DLSS, and PS has its checkerboarding. You can't beat native resolution, though.
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Mondyrocks Jul 28, 2020 @ 9:30pm 
I'm a bit lost here.
Why would it need to?

It uses checkerboard rendering on the ps4 pro because it isn't powerful enough to render in native 4k?
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Reidlos Jul 28, 2020 @ 10:22pm 
No it will be native w/e resolution, however it will likely use DLS2.0 if you have a card that supports it, which is better at doing what checkerboard does but not checkerboard
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Hyperion Jul 28, 2020 @ 11:41pm 
Originally posted by Reidlos:
No it will be native w/e resolution, however it will likely use DLS2.0 if you have a card that supports it, which is better at doing what checkerboard does but not checkerboard

As much as I would like it to, this game probably won't support DLSS 2.0. We saw the whole settings tab in the PC trailer released earlier this month and DLSS 2.0 was nowhere to be seen.
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Dionysus 🐭 Jul 29, 2020 @ 1:08am 
Originally posted by Mondyrocks:
I'm a bit lost here.
Why would it need to?

It uses checkerboard rendering on the ps4 pro because it isn't powerful enough to render in native 4k?
Why not? Not every PC is powerful enough to render native 4k.
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Hyperion Jul 29, 2020 @ 1:10am 
Originally posted by aaronth07:
Originally posted by Mondyrocks:
I'm a bit lost here.
Why would it need to?

It uses checkerboard rendering on the ps4 pro because it isn't powerful enough to render in native 4k?
Why not? Not every PC is powerful enough to render native 4k.

If someone's PC is not powerful to run in native 4K, why would they attempt to run the game in 4K? Lol...
Last edited by Hyperion; Jul 29, 2020 @ 1:36am
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Scylla Jul 29, 2020 @ 1:24am 
If you have a NVIDIA card there's already an upscale option with sharpening in Nvidia Control Center.
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Dante Jul 29, 2020 @ 1:56am 
Originally posted by Reidlos:
No it will be native w/e resolution, however it will likely use DLS2.0 if you have a card that supports it, which is better at doing what checkerboard does but not checkerboard
There is no DLSS in this game and that is official.
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Dionysus 🐭 Jul 29, 2020 @ 5:31am 
Originally posted by Hyperion:
Originally posted by aaronth07:
Why not? Not every PC is powerful enough to render native 4k.

If someone's PC is not powerful to run in native 4K, why would they attempt to run the game in 4K? Lol...
Because maybe checkerboard 4k is better quality than native 1440p? Or maybe I would like to do checkerboard 1440p to get higher framerates?

Originally posted by Scylla:
If you have a NVIDIA card there's already an upscale option with sharpening in Nvidia Control Center.
Really? What upscale option? I have only seen the sharpening option.
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PC2070 Jul 29, 2020 @ 5:35am 
Originally posted by aaronth07:
Originally posted by Hyperion:

If someone's PC is not powerful to run in native 4K, why would they attempt to run the game in 4K? Lol...
Because maybe checkerboard 4k is better quality than native 1440p? Or maybe I would like to do checkerboard 1440p to get higher framerates?

Originally posted by Scylla:
If you have a NVIDIA card there's already an upscale option with sharpening in Nvidia Control Center.
Really? What upscale option? I have only seen the sharpening option.
The sharpening filter is not the same as upscaling or image reconstruction
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Engels78 Jul 29, 2020 @ 5:37am 
Originally posted by aaronth07:
Originally posted by Hyperion:

If someone's PC is not powerful to run in native 4K, why would they attempt to run the game in 4K? Lol...
Because maybe checkerboard 4k is better quality than native 1440p? Or maybe I would like to do checkerboard 1440p to get higher framerates?

Originally posted by Scylla:
If you have a NVIDIA card there's already an upscale option with sharpening in Nvidia Control Center.
Really? What upscale option? I have only seen the sharpening option.
There is no checkerboard on PC! There is DLSS! And only on RTX cards. The weakest is 2060 which is much more (50% and more) powerful than 1060... So in 1440p should work nice but I would expect 30 fps in 4k, TRUE 4k on PC. But HZD has not DLSS support anyway.
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Super Bambaspis Jul 29, 2020 @ 5:44am 
It's not about that, word around the water cooler has it that Sony has a patent on the technique used to checkerboard Horizon on the PS4, and they aren't about to allow it to plop on over to PC. Apparently there is something in that there PS4 that makes checkerboarding an efficient and worthwhile thing to actually do - and it wouldn't just "work" on PC - Who knows if that's true, but they don't want their precious checkerboard code splayed open on the relatively unsecure PC platform for us to all peep at.

Also saying that checkerboard is better quality than native 1440p, well... there are many that would argue that point. And I'm one of them.

But you have your answer there - You wont see checkerboarding on PC, probably ever. PC has it's DLSS, and PS has its checkerboarding. You can't beat native resolution, though.
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Dionysus 🐭 Jul 29, 2020 @ 5:59am 
Originally posted by Lucan1010:
Originally posted by aaronth07:
Because maybe checkerboard 4k is better quality than native 1440p? Or maybe I would like to do checkerboard 1440p to get higher framerates?


Really? What upscale option? I have only seen the sharpening option.
The sharpening filter is not the same as upscaling or image reconstruction
Ok, I didn't claim that it was.

Originally posted by Bilbo Laggins:
It's not about that, word around the water cooler has it that Sony has a patent on the technique used to checkerboard Horizon on the PS4, and they aren't about to allow it to plop on over to PC. Apparently there is something in that there PS4 that makes checkerboarding an efficient and worthwhile thing to actually do - and it wouldn't just "work" on PC - Who knows if that's true, but they don't want their precious checkerboard code splayed open on the relatively unsecure PC platform for us to all peep at.

Also saying that checkerboard is better quality than native 1440p, well... there are many that would argue that point. And I'm one of them.

But you have your answer there - You wont see checkerboarding on PC, probably ever. PC has it's DLSS, and PS has its checkerboarding. You can't beat native resolution, though.
Well that is unfortunate. But DLSS does beat native in many ways. Unfortunately I don't have an RTX GPU, nor does this game support DLSS.
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