How much is left?

[talloyer]

It has been several months I haven't played Gloomwood so I still have to keep up it with the latest contents/updates, but I have no idea how much of the campaign is missing to be finished. Can anyone share?

[Waltnut]

Originally posted by ShakingZealot:

Just stop commenting on my posts (including this one) and we're good.

Lmao who does bro think he is

[SilverSet]

Can we take a moment and appreciate Zealot's new pfp and how it fits his character so well? I mean, that's just hilarious to read the stuff he posts and then the t w e n t y b u c k s come into my mind with that pfp of his. Amazing stuff.

[リアンダ]

Originally posted by SilverSet:

Can we take a moment and appreciate Zealot's new pfp and how it fits his character so well? I mean, that's just hilarious to read the stuff he posts and then the t w e n t y b u c k s come into my mind with that pfp of his. Amazing stuff.

That's rich coming from a guy with a furry profile picture. Tell you what, I'll give you "t w e n t y b u c k s" to buy yourself a nice, big, fat bad dragon™ if you stop injecting yourself into my convos with op. You can talk to me whernever I quote you.

[SilverSet]

Originally posted by ShakingZealot:

That's rich coming from a guy with a furry profile picture. Tell you what, I'll give you "t w e n t y b u c k s" to buy yourself a nice, big, fat bad dragon™ if you stop injecting yourself into my convos with op. You can talk to me whernever I quote you.

Aw, don't be so upset by that. It's all just fun and games! But, it's not like I'm not allowed to leave any messages here, and most of these threads are dead and no longer "constructive". And it's not like you didn't blacklist me, well, you did, didn't you?
But, tell you what. Let's just forget our differences and pfps and maybe even these 20 bucks (for now at least). And to memorize this peace agreement, if I get my hands on the level editor (and if it's going to be in this game), I will make you a reference somewhere, something silly and nice! How's that sounds?

[リアンダ]

Originally posted by SilverSet:

But, it's not like I'm not allowed to leave any messages here

Do whatever you want but just to make this clear. You don't have to respond to every conversation I'm part of. Just some food for thought .

Originally posted by SilverSet:

"most of these threads are dead and no longer "constructive"

Well this entire game is dead. Nothing wrong with that btw. But yeah, that's what happens two years into EA fo a linear single player game.

Originally posted by SilverSet:

And it's not like you didn't blacklist me, well, you did, didn't you?

Lol you think I'd go through the trouble of putting you on a banlist or something? I haven't banned a single person in my life and you're sure as hell not important enough to change that.

Originally posted by SilverSet:

And to memorize this peace agreement, if I get my hands on the level editor (and if it's going to be in this game), I will make you a reference somewhere, something silly and nice! How's that sounds?

Thank you. my great grand kids will probably appreciate it when the game finaly arrivers, even though I may not be arround to see it.

[Waltnut]

Originally posted by ShakingZealot:

Thank you. my great grand kids will probably appreciate it when the game finaly arrivers, even though I may not be arround to see it.

Yeah so, to me you were either 9 or an old man who acts like the first one, so let’s go with the second one.

[SilverSet]

Originally posted by SilverSet:

And to memorize this peace agreement, if I get my hands on the level editor (and if it's going to be in this game), I will make you a reference somewhere, something silly and nice! How's that sounds?

Thank you. my great grand kids will probably appreciate it when the game finaly arrivers, even though I may not be arround to see it.

Hey, it's not all gloom and doom. The game might be released in like 2 to 5 years, doubt that anything will happen to you in the meantime.
And that's a lot of time for me to create a funny in-joke, just need to listen to some Thief Benny's dialogue again..

[リアンダ]

Originally posted by SilverSet:

And that's a lot of time for me to create a funny in-joke, just need to listen to some Thief Benny's dialogue again..

Well you better make it really good joke then if I need to wait that long. Maybe you could buy an item at the vendor for 20 coins but he will only give it to you 5 hours later. Maybe. Don't forget he's got a "Early Acacess" sign on the counter so he can give you the item whenever he feels like it...

[SilverSet]

Originally posted by ShakingZealot:

Well you better make it really good joke then if I need to wait that long. Maybe you could buy an item at the vendor for 20 coins but he will only give it to you 5 hours later. Maybe. Don't forget he's got a "Early Acacess" sign on the counter so he can give you the item whenever he feels like it...

I was mostly thinking about a complain letter from some noble. Say, he paid for a delivery/service (and payed extra t w e n t y coins), so he can get his suppplies faster, yet it's been some kind of delay. So he complains to the company with the letter that can be found in his office. And there should be some ironic plot-twist (and possible hint for loot).
But that's just what came to my mind as the first concept. It's all about world building, really.

[リアンダ]

Originally posted by SilverSet:

I was mostly thinking about a complain letter from some noble. Say, he paid for a delivery/service (and payed extra t w e n t y coins), so he can get his suppplies faster, yet it's been some kind of delay. So he complains to the company with the letter that can be found in his office. And there should be some ironic plot-twist (and possible hint for loot).
But that's just what came to my mind as the first concept. It's all about world building, really.

I know it's an analogy and all that but it's funny how even in this hypothetical scenario you sugarcoat the underlying issue. An honest anology would be "nobleman pays in full for a product and the merchant refuses to elaborate when he will receive it". In your scenario its "nobleman pays extra to receive product faster". Quite telling that the Early Access model is so ridiculous that even in your fake scneario you need to twist it into what would be "advanced access" aka pay extra to play the game one week earlier.

[♦♣OneFirmCat♥♠]

Originally posted by GiantClams:

Originally posted by ♦♣OneFirmCat♥♠:

You are right, it's just 95% inspired. The other 5% is the guns from anything with guns.

So with the MASSIVE 28 minutes playing Gloomwood you could say with 100% certainty that every aspect of the game is inspired by Thief, so that means the enemies, items, areas, plot, and gameplay takes inspiration form Thief (besides the guns).

Wow, I didn't understand what he was taking about earlier, but thanks to you I know now.

It took two incredibly dumb people to say the same dumb thing for me to think along your line and realize you two don't even know that "time played" on steam is not real or accurate and only keeps time when the steam client is online. Anyone, at anytime can go offline and still play SP.

What a joke

[♦♣OneFirmCat♥♠]

Originally posted by ShakingZealot:

Originally posted by ♦♣OneFirmCat♥♠:

Let 'em cook. Honestly I don't care enough to give that much of a damn like you.

It's not about Gloomwood. It's about a trust based publishing model that used to be mutually beneficial but nowadays has been turned into this one sided thing that's incredibly prone to abuse. For example when I saw Hyperstrange collaborate with New Blood I immediately removed the upcoming DLC from my "support in EA list" because I didn't know if they would negatively influence the production time on the game. I have almost completeley stopped supporting any dev in Early Acces because you can't make an informed purchase decision if there is no way to hold anyone accounteable.

Originally posted by ♦♣OneFirmCat♥♠:

This is decent but it's a good ways off from its own inspiration, and I don't think it'll ever be up there with it unless it gets better overall and the early portion is redone.

I've only played the first part of the game a few days into EA. What I played back then was probably a 6/10.

Originally posted by ♦♣OneFirmCat♥♠:

After playing Blood West, which I feel is better and more immersive, despite not having the critical attention of Gloomwood.

Not sure what you mean by critical attention.

Is there enough content at the start of e-a for the asking price? No? Then wait for a sale. It's not hard.

Anyway unless you're one of those people who won't play work-in-progress stuff, try it now. It's got enough content for a few hours.

Critical attention means it didn't have a hype train behind it like Gloomwood had with PCgamer. Blood West is being judged more harshly ATM, and Gloomwood is being judged a lot more leniently, despite the fact that IMO, one is better than the other.

[BohemianCat]

Originally posted by ♦♣OneFirmCat♥♠:

Originally posted by GiantClams:

So with the MASSIVE 28 minutes playing Gloomwood you could say with 100% certainty that every aspect of the game is inspired by Thief, so that means the enemies, items, areas, plot, and gameplay takes inspiration form Thief (besides the guns).

Wow, I didn't understand what he was taking about earlier, but thanks to you I know now.

It took two incredibly dumb people to say the same dumb thing for me to think along your line and realize you two don't even know that "time played" on steam is not real or accurate and only keeps time when the steam client is online. Anyone, at anytime can go offline and still play SP.

What a joke :lunar2019crylaughingpig:

So how many hours have you put into GW? Also why are playing a game offline?

[♦♣OneFirmCat♥♠]

Originally posted by GiantClams:

Originally posted by ♦♣OneFirmCat♥♠:

Wow, I didn't understand what he was taking about earlier, but thanks to you I know now.

It took two incredibly dumb people to say the same dumb thing for me to think along your line and realize you two don't even know that "time played" on steam is not real or accurate and only keeps time when the steam client is online. Anyone, at anytime can go offline and still play SP.

What a joke

So how many hours have you put into GW? Also why are playing a game offline?

I finished what's available to play currently.

Here's another thing you obviously don't know, you don't need to start Steam to play Gloomwood. You can start it from desktop with a shortcut.

And yes, people play offline singleplayers offline.

[リアンダ]

Originally posted by ♦♣OneFirmCat♥♠:

Is there enough content at the start of e-a for the asking price? No? Then wait for a sale. It's not hard.

How would you know that without playing the game? Since users on Steam can leave reviews without even playing the game for 5 minutes it's impossible to estimate how much playtime is in a game.

Originally posted by ♦♣OneFirmCat♥♠:

Anyway unless you're one of those people who won't play work-in-progress stuff, try it now. It's got enough content for a few hours.

I am that kind out person though. At least almost. I ususally play a 1-2 hours within the first two weeks after purchasing the game (in case I want to refund). Then I will not touch it until full release. In Gloomwood case I plaid until I reached the lighthouse which was all the availeable content at that time. Though I somehow didn't manage to get into the slaughtered goat inn while everyone else seems to be able to do so so I might have missed a bit of content there. The huge dissapointment came two years later when I checked back with the game. The reason I did that is because the median development time of EA is 25 months and I thought that surely a potatoe game like GloomWood should be done by now.

Originally posted by ♦♣OneFirmCat♥♠:

Critical attention means it didn't have a hype train behind it like Gloomwood had with PCgamer.

I agree. Blood West is a significantly better product. Great Art design, level design, movement and a unique approach to the genre. I woudln't have thought shooter and stealth games blend well but it turns out that indeed they do.

Originally posted by ♦♣OneFirmCat♥♠:

Blood West is being judged more harshly ATM, and Gloomwood is being judged a lot more leniently, despite the fact that IMO, one is better than the other.

I feel like Gloomwood is getting a lot of leeway because of how amateurish it looks. Visually speaking it feels like project done by a few very talented highschool friends and as a result people don't seem to have the same expectations. I alos feel like New Blood are a lot less gifted in creating stalth games than wheen creating shooter games. I'm genuinelly confused how the same team that did the fantastic weapon, enemy and level deisgn in Amid Evil makes a stealth game with such a staggering lack of creative ideas. That's also a reason why I dislike how long GloomWood takes to develope. They could be working on another boomershooter, a genre they're good at rather than bloating up Gloomwood to 40 hours of stealth mediocracy.