i still feel sad for basil (spoilers obviously)

[Nubby Gubs]

you know that even in the good ending, basil wont be doing all too well when sunny is gone. in the secret good ending, the cutscene shows basil's 'something' not disappear, but just crawl back into basil's mind, meaning it will not go away. considering basil's abandonment and anxiety issues, it will probably come back once sunny is gone. maybe it wont be as bad as it was before, but it would still for sure cause basil a great deal of emotional and mental harm.

that makes me feel extremely bad for basil. i wish we could know what happens after with basil and ofcourse the entire friend group, but that would for sure ruin the game's ending since the magic of the ending is how you interpret it.

[micm_93]

I can understand why you would feel sad for Basil, but it's a symbolic gesture of mental health issues. A lot of people use terms like 'I've had depression' or 'I beat depression', but in reality it's something you live with everyday. There are times when it is manageable (or maybe even unnoticeable), and other times when it comes back. What changes is our ability to cope with it and make healthy choices that improve our mental health. Basil's "something" might return, but he has reconnected with his friends and I believe he will be able to overcome it.

[Nubby Gubs]

Originally posted by micm_93:

I can understand why you would feel sad for Basil, but it's a symbolic gesture of mental health issues. A lot of people use terms like 'I've had depression' or 'I beat depression', but in reality it's something you live with everyday. There are times when it is manageable (or maybe even unnoticeable), and other times when it comes back. What changes is our ability to cope with it and make healthy choices that improve our mental health. Basil's "something" might return, but he has reconnected with his friends and I believe he will be able to overcome it.

ofcourse, i struggle with depression and abandonment anxiety so i get that. its just sad to see that the scars basil has are never fully gone like one would wish. but yeah, he probably does overcome it later on, but it still is sad to know that he will continue to struggle, atleast for a while until he does eventually overcome it (which is weird to be sad about because i know its the natural route of how mental health problems are solved, it doesnt just go away in a day.)

i guess its an irrational thing to be sad about? lol

[Hidden]

That concern echoed my own.
I got the secret ending on my first playthrough without knowing it was the secret ending.

Not gonna like, I knew *about* a secret ending, so I had my hopes up that maybe there was a better ending, where it was clear that Basil's Something vanishes too, instead of retreating.

But No. That IS the secret ending. Confirmation that things between the two of them can be ok.

And... That is ok. Because with the truth out. The cause of both of their traumas. With their friend's understanding, and ability to ACTUALLY be there, and understand what it is that they are suffering with. Guilt. Not just grief... but guilt.

They can improve from here.

Sunny will likely visit. They will grow up, and probably keep in touch.

Basil is surrounded by friends for now, and he no longer has a reason to shun and hide himself away from the others.

Remember that Basil was shackled by the fact that he was taking the blame for Sunny. When Sunny confesses, all of that weight is removed from Basil.
Basil's best friend did something horrible, and then distanced himself away after he helped him. The actions that Sunny did, like defaced Basil's pictures, Basil took on the blame for so that they didn't need to explain what happened to lead Sunny to do that. This lead to Aubrey becoming angry with him. This spiraled into Basil being bullied and outcasted, and his best friend he was covering for disconnected from him. His grandmother was dying, and his parents were never home.


I truely believe, Basil has it worse than Sunny. That's why the game is about saving Basil... and Sunny overcomes himself along the way.

And I believe we succeed in setting everything up for Basil to improve from here. Facing the guilt. Taking blame back off of Basil's shoulders. Rekindling the friendship, and asking for forgiveness for a horrible mistake. And setting up that foundation of support for Basil.

Through the whole process we see through Sunny that you don't snap your fingers and it's dealt with. Basil probably has it much worse. But. Unlike with Sunny, Basil can start with friends and support now.

That last smile Basil gave, was the closest to a real smile I think he's given in all of the Faraway segments... accounting for the black eye of course.

There was a moment in the game, where Basil says something along the lines of you have to have faith in your friends to forgive you.
The same can be said about having faith in your friends to carry on.

Basil might have it worse, but I really think Basil is stronger as well.

[Nubby Gubs]

Originally posted by Hidden:

That concern echoed my own.
I got the secret ending on my first playthrough without knowing it was the secret ending.

Not gonna like, I knew *about* a secret ending, so I had my hopes up that maybe there was a better ending, where it was clear that Basil's Something vanishes too, instead of retreating.

But No. That IS the secret ending. Confirmation that things between the two of them can be ok.

And... That is ok. Because with the truth out. The cause of both of their traumas. With their friend's understanding, and ability to ACTUALLY be there, and understand what it is that they are suffering with. Guilt. Not just grief... but guilt.

They can improve from here.

Sunny will likely visit. They will grow up, and probably keep in touch.

Basil is surrounded by friends for now, and he no longer has a reason to shun and hide himself away from the others.

Remember that Basil was shackled by the fact that he was taking the blame for Sunny. When Sunny confesses, all of that weight is removed from Basil.
Basil's best friend did something horrible, and then distanced himself away after he helped him. The actions that Sunny did, like defaced Basil's pictures, Basil took on the blame for so that they didn't need to explain what happened to lead Sunny to do that. This lead to Aubrey becoming angry with him. This spiraled into Basil being bullied and outcasted, and his best friend he was covering for disconnected from him. His grandmother was dying, and his parents were never home.


I truely believe, Basil has it worse than Sunny. That's why the game is about saving Basil... and Sunny overcomes himself along the way.

And I believe we succeed in setting everything up for Basil to improve from here. Facing the guilt. Taking blame back off of Basil's shoulders. Rekindling the friendship, and asking for forgiveness for a horrible mistake. And setting up that foundation of support for Basil.

Through the whole process we see through Sunny that you don't snap your fingers and it's dealt with. Basil probably has it much worse. But. Unlike with Sunny, Basil can start with friends and support now.

That last smile Basil gave, was the closest to a real smile I think he's given in all of the Faraway segments... accounting for the black eye of course.

yeah i get what youre saying, although that does get into the question of whether sunny and basil would be forgiven by all members of the friend group, because if not then basil specifically would suffer a lot (i personally believe they would be forgiven, but its still something to think about.)

i appreciate the response!

[The Milk Man]

It's natural for Sunny's Something to vanish, so I think Sunny might still deal with Something too.

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I'd like to think that Basil will be fine after all.

I think the context of Basil's ''Something'' is his own consciousness:
* It is the result of the anxiety of Mari's death, the lack of her parents and the harassment of Aubrey
* the depression of his grandmother's death and Sunny's moving out
* witness as well as give him the idea to hang up Mari as an attempt to help Sunny for what he did. (what a way to help him, but anyway, it's fiction and OMOCAT did it that way)

I'm based on his sprite: it seems that Basil's "Something" is eating him up, metaphorically saying that "his consciousness of him is eating him alive."
And in the cutscene I think that is the reason why he crawls back into his mind, like trying to somehow push that load off or remove it.

In the end: each of us has a different interpretation of the Good Ending

I add, to I believe that it is the general context of the video game... that each one takes, maintains, overcomes or gives up the pain, guilt or trauma of some event... Basil could be giving in and / or denying his guilt, Sunny was ignoring it , Hero was with a mental crisis and possibly denying the event, Aubrey felt lonely because she wanted to seek some sentimental support for what happened with Mari when she did not have it and because of this is her rudeness and Kel simply dedicated herself to sports to overcome the event ... and that happens exactly the same with us: many of us cried and mentally broke (without exaggeration), others simply had no reaction whatsoever to the plot twist of the story, some hated Sunny and Basil.