Why Oxite not Oxide and other questionable science....

[zinvicta]

I'm intrigued by this game and the science fictiony setting, but watching the couple let's plays that have come out this weekend I'm finding a couple items irksome from a suspension of disbelief standpoint.

1. Oxite. I understand this is apparently a fictional ore in Star Wars, but I don't get the impression that Icarus takes place in that universe. Since the material is used to generate oxygen in Icarus, why not refer to it as a real thing- an oxide, rather than an oxite? I think I'd be fine with Oxite if it generated Oxen instead.

2. The world featured in the recent let's plays is a lush green world with ubiquitous plants as well as oxygen breathing mammals....so why does the player need to generate oxygen in this environment? There should be plenty of oxygen given the amount of photosynthesis present.

Has anyone found good justifications for these things in game?

[123]

The game actually says "the air turned toxic" and doesn't mention about not having oxygen (or cmiiw) so it should have oxygen but the air is toxic, while that oxite is probably for creating clean oxygen.

[Werric]

I'm not sure why just because something looks like it does on our little planet that we seem to naturally assume it should be exactly the same. As said above the air turned toxic.

Seems the flora and fauna could adapt, probably because they are native to the planet, (as in bred there) and we are the alien life form on this planet now. The terraforming went bad (for us humans) because of these things called exotics. We have no idea what they are or how they did it yet. What we do know is that they made it so we can't breathe the air but the plants and animals can.

As for suspending belief because of these things and others all I can say is I suspended my belief when I apparently traveled 4 light years while in a cryogenic state. All games have some form of stretching the truth as we know it. For example (not in this game) Have you ever punched a tree and actually gotten logs from it rather than at the very least bloodied knuckles?

Anyway it is the first beta. Personally I'm sticking around for at least 1 more beta (probably all 4) before I decide whether or not the devs get to keep my money.

[Orion Invictus]

Originally posted by zinvicta:

Has anyone found good justifications for these things in game?

It's a game. It doesn't have to be realistic. Fact: if a game were ever 100% realistic, it'd be boring as ♥♥♥♥.

Side note, I find it quite interesting that those are your biggest issues, not the fact that you can carry entire crafting stations, wall segments, or even a fireplace in your pocket. Feels like your issue with realism is very selective and you're just repeating what you read by some bad faith actors.

[Pach]

Originally posted by Werric:

Seems the flora and fauna could adapt, probably because they are native to the planet, (as in bred there) and we are the alien life form on this planet now. The terraforming went bad (for us humans) because of these things called exotics. We have no idea what they are or how they did it yet. What we do know is that they made it so we can't breathe the air but the plants and animals can.

Or... they were able to evolve/adapt. There are places on earth where creatures are adapted to live and we cannot.

Or... they were genetically modified, and they were able to adapt... but either humans cannot be modified, or refused the modification.

[Jayson Phoenix]

well hes right if the game is a scify setup and wants to be somewhat realistic those questions are valid. sure theres other flaws and everybody seems to have his one flaw that bothers them the most and those might be his.
so for the atmosphere and helmet wearing thing, as others already said the atmosphere is considered toxic and dangerous, actually we dont seem to even really know it is and it might even be a trick to have the planet on which we found the most valuable element in the universe declared inhabitable. but it is considered toxic and dangerous and thats because we dont realy know about the effects of exotic matter. on a side note, even if there was enough oxygen there can still be other polluting gasses, and even when its breathable air it still is an alien planet with possible alien bacteria or spores or micro-organisms or particles of that exotic matter or whatever in the air. in every scify film they eventually take there helmet off because theres oxygen im always like "wtf who in their right mind would take their helmet off on an alien planet not knowing what else is floating in the air?! you all gonna die!", see alien covenant for example. ^^
for the oxite thing, i have to agree i have a problem with that too and would rather like the game to be doing with at least ice or only in cold regions or whatever or the ability to filter pure oxygen out of the air in a slow pace filling some canister i can put in my suit instead.
and in that regard i have more of a problem with if we consider the atmosphere toxic then we should have to process water for example like destill it, and same for food if we hunt how can the meat be clean enough to eat without processing it to a protein bar ot paste or something. as with the movies, i wouldnt do that ^^

if we are meant to have the immersive feeling of beeing on an alien planet with failed terraforming and unknown exotic matter there should be at least some logic consistency to make us believe it and not constantly questioning it even if we dont want to. seems theres a lot of people in here asking such questions. most less scientiffic but the helmet and atmosphere thing and the animals and plants at least.

[DrDr !]

If the air was toxic , then ud where a filter non / like a HAZMAT suit ?

[DrDr !]

Originally posted by Pach:

Originally posted by Werric:

Seems the flora and fauna could adapt, probably because they are native to the planet, (as in bred there) and we are the alien life form on this planet now. The terraforming went bad (for us humans) because of these things called exotics. We have no idea what they are or how they did it yet. What we do know is that they made it so we can't breathe the air but the plants and animals can.

Or... they were able to evolve/adapt. There are places on earth where creatures are adapted to live and we cannot.

Or... they were genetically modified, and they were able to adapt... but either humans cannot be modified, or refused the modification.

u think its a beta thing, i was guessing theyd turn o2 off in release unless ur in a more difficult environment.