Help with Bandit build

[LemonRush7777]

I'd like some help regarding Bandit. I tried going full LUCK like some guides recommended, but the damage is atrocious even at the start of the game. Everything is an HP sponge for him.

I'm probably doing something wrong here since with all other characters I had no trouble killing at the start of the game, even with Oracle that people call the worst character below Bandit.

Anyway, I'd like to use shurikens. What should I invest in right now?

[Lancer]

Shuriken builds are easy, set your AGI + ACC to match the Qlvl of stages you’re playing and dump the rest into STR. Keep bosses burned and probably switch to Poison for a bigger damage buff from Poison Relics.

LUC builds are LUC/PIE or LUC/INT. Earlier on you probably just want straight PIE to buff claw and Thunder’s mega bomb.

Also Oracle has long since been buffed to be the best character lol

[LemonRush7777]

I'm hearing conflicting advice. One post advises AGI, the other implies AGI is a dump stat for Shuriken since it doesnt miss. Which is it?

[Lancer]

All physical attacks can fumble, you definitely need some AGI. The confusion comes from hit count, Shuriken can’t get extra hits (check the log to see hit count) and therefore need less AGI. ACC is boneless AGI, you can’t get extra hits with it but it adds accuracy. AGI + ACC should be equal to Quest Level for the best results. Maybe earlier in the game STR is more important than “having enough” AGI but later on you’re gonna fumble like crazy without it.

[LemonRush7777]

I see, thanks!

Is AGI also needed for weapons that deal magical damage?

[Lancer]

Nope, physical is physical and magical is magical. …And holy is holy.

[LemonRush7777]

Originally posted by Lancer:

Nope, physical is physical and magical is magical. …And holy is holy.

Thanks! I might try and INT / PIE build even though I know its gonna be ♥♥♥♥ later on. I can just respec.

[Lancer]

I mean LUC/PIE is very good, though it doesn’t get crazy at endgame until you get lots of hard to get gear.

The later you go the worse mixed damage builds are, because it’s harder to hit stat minimums.

[LemonRush7777]

Originally posted by Lancer:

I mean LUC/PIE is very good, though it doesn’t get crazy at endgame until you get lots of hard to get gear.

The later you go the worse mixed damage builds are, because it’s harder to hit stat minimums.

At +20 luck from 2 dragon king jewels right now I get the dragon special relic pretty frequently. Is full LUC really that important in a PIE focused build? Couldnt I just get by with a class item with LUC + the Dragon King amulet (or 2x class items)?

[Lancer]

At 70+ boss HP really starts ballooning, so you need more optimized builds. INT builds in general kinda just don’t got the sauce, though Bandit is decent with upgraded Flame Chakram. Getting it if he’s your first character can be rough though.

[LemonRush7777]

Originally posted by Lancer:

At 70+ boss HP really starts ballooning, so you need more optimized builds. INT builds in general kinda just don’t got the sauce, though Bandit is decent with upgraded Flame Chakram. Getting it if he’s your first character can be rough though.

I have been farming unearthed lvl 70 for 2 days straight and nothing... I got the INT rapier, but not the Flame Chakram. Just got tons of Javelin +1, instead.

My idea with the INT build would be going INT + PIE and hopefully compensating LUC with items. The damage focus would still be the Dragon Bomb skill (and Dragon Claw for trash mobs).

Would like to test relic damage in that configuration, but I heard people saying they scale very poorly, so not much hope on that side.

My first impression of the PIE / LUC build was favorable. I just switched at lvl 65 and the damage is pretty crazy at +40 PIE from leveling. But once the bomb relics are over the damage falls off a cliff until you pull more.

Anyway, thanks for all the tips! Appreciate you taking the time to help.

[Lancer]

Oh yeah no problem lol. I’m always down to talk builds and stats and stuff.