Game is too hard!

[Saturnalia]

It's too hard to find the keys and map design really hurts my brain.Why this game is hard like this please explain i need answer!!!

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Originally posted by mjordan79:

Originally posted by Jamarcus:

It's too hard to find the keys and map design really hurts my brain.Why this game is hard like this please explain i need answer!!!

Back in the days, games were designed like this. It's not designed for todays kids, it's a game meant for real men.

this is a joke right

[SuperFly]

Originally posted by this cat is insane!!:

Originally posted by mjordan79:

Back in the days, games were designed like this. It's not designed for todays kids, it's a game meant for real men.

this is a joke right

Actually, it isn't -- at all.
Unless the title is a free-roam open-world, modern FPS level design is akin to a tube that leads to an arena...rinse and repeat.
Even deceptively faked 'open world' games like Crysis 2 & 3 are exactly this style of level design.

Classic shooter levels required pathfinding skills, which traversed and altered a small area multiple times in multiple ways to extend its playability.
Games don't do that anymore, they just look pretty and put you on invisible bumper lanes to show you a bunch of stuff that looks pretty, or reveals exposition, etc etc.

Once a player wakes up to these sad facts, their healing can begin.

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Originally posted by SuperFly:

Originally posted by this cat is insane!!:

this is a joke right

Actually, it isn't -- at all.
Unless the title is a free-roam open-world, modern FPS level design is akin to a tube that leads to an arena...rinse and repeat.
Even deceptively faked 'open world' games like Crysis 2 & 3 are exactly this style of level design.

Classic shooter levels required pathfinding skills, which traversed and altered a small area multiple times in multiple ways to extend its playability.
Games don't do that anymore, they just look pretty and put you on invisible bumper lanes to show you a bunch of stuff that looks pretty, or reveals exposition, etc etc.

Once a player wakes up to these sad facts, their healing can begin.

i mean my take? the maps are pretty awful and the only good aspect of this game is that its cloning original dooms gameplay mechanics. i guess its easy to forget they made this game AFTER DOOM 2, meaning its a downgrade of the series cuz they were just ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ out games to capitalize on brand success

im gonna assume anyone whos having trouble just isnt good with no mouselook because the enemies have minimal hp and theres plenty of ammo so far, ive made it to lvl 13. Maps have been terrible cept for a few. Would be cool if they put in the effort to make an actual doom 3 at the time rather than, this and doom 3.

sorry i just got done with https://youtu.be/CX3MldVaN_A and i feel like i no longer like doom and i hate it

[SuperFly]

Originally posted by this cat is insane!!:

sorry i just got done with https://youtu.be/CX3MldVaN_A and i feel like i no longer like doom and i hate it

That's okay -- like Santa Claus, DOOM is vain to your imagination.
...At least it was, before CGI engineers masquerading as game designers left it irrectifiably in a proverbially burning dumpster.

In my opinion, DOOM64 eclipses DOOM2 in all respects -- the level design being the latter's absolute weakest element.

[mjordan79]

Originally posted by SuperFly:

In my opinion, DOOM64 eclipses DOOM2 in all respects -- the level design being the latter's absolute weakest element.

Agree. I have loved and continue to love Doom in all its incarnations. But for the old games, Doom 64 is the superior choice. It's just different, but has something special in its core.

[The Sinless Assassin]

Welcome to oldschool gaming where you didn't have waypoints holding your hand to everywhere you needed to go. Press TAB for the map if you need to see what's left to be uncovered. I was actually pretty bad with my sense of direction before I started playing FPS games, but another trick I learned is to keep in mind what kind of landmarks and other environmental clues you're passing by.

[ming84]

Hold the fire button instead of tapping for each shot. Feels way better makes the game easier.

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Originally posted by SuperFly:

Originally posted by this cat is insane!!:

sorry i just got done with https://youtu.be/CX3MldVaN_A and i feel like i no longer like doom and i hate it

That's okay -- like Santa Claus, DOOM is vain to your imagination.
...At least it was, before CGI engineers masquerading as game designers left it irrectifiably in a proverbially burning dumpster.

In my opinion, DOOM64 eclipses DOOM2 in all respects -- the level design being the latter's absolute weakest element.

since this thread is active again i get to pretend my opinion matters!!
I thought the UAC base levels were awful but so far the hell levels are cool and creative, yeah doom 2 doesnt quite have levels like it and they are pretty ok. im not big on scary atmospheres so thats why i like doom 1 and 2 more, rather than listening to babies cry as music we get hard rock rips to blast demons to. I feel doom 64 could have been way better if they went for an actual mainline game rather than a downgrade of an engine for an offshoot game. Oh yeah another thing i find doom64 so EASY it took me playing til Even Simpler to die once.

oh but not all the maps are good, that one that has the harpoon trap blue skullkey switch is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ awful, just like doom 2 which has maps like the chasm that ones not good either.

were you saying modern doom sucks? i like modern doom quite a bit, wasnt a fan of 2016 but eternal i finished on nightmare hell yea

thank you for coming to my ted talk

[Seamus]

Originally posted by this cat is insane!!:

a downgrade of an engine for an offshoot game

If you're going to have an opinion, try basing it on something that isn't blatantly incorrect.

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Originally posted by Seamus:

Originally posted by this cat is insane!!:

a downgrade of an engine for an offshoot game

If you're going to have an opinion, try basing it on something that isn't blatantly incorrect.

whats incorrect, saying its an offshoot game or its a downgrade to doom 2 which it is thats why theres less content, from enemies to gun animations, i know my wording is bad sorry i have brain damage thats why im typing here

[Seamus]

Originally posted by this cat is insane!!:

whats incorrect, saying its an offshoot game or its a downgrade to doom 2 which it is thats why theres less content, from enemies to gun animations, i know my wording is bad sorry i have brain damage thats why im typing here

You said it's a downgrade of an engine.

That is factually incorrect.

The rest of your take is just you having bad taste.

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Originally posted by Seamus:

Originally posted by this cat is insane!!:

whats incorrect, saying its an offshoot game or its a downgrade to doom 2 which it is thats why theres less content, from enemies to gun animations, i know my wording is bad sorry i have brain damage thats why im typing here

You said it's a downgrade of an engine.

That is factually incorrect.

The rest of your take is just you having bad taste.

the maps have some new tech available its cool but the memory is overall worse, which is why the shotguns have no reload animations and there are less enemies (which is in fact part of the games downgraded memory limit compared original games ). i like atmospherics and all but the action which is my favorite part was reduced for better maps idk i love pointless conversation thank you

[Seamus]

Storage constraints on the n64 cartridge to do not make the engine worse.

The engine is objectively better than the original version of the doom engine used for 1 and 2.

[Delta Dagger]

Originally posted by Seamus:

Storage constraints on the n64 cartridge to do not make the engine worse.

The engine is objectively better than the original version of the doom engine used for 1 and 2.

The constraints just meant we lose out on a hand full of classic monsters, like the Archvile.

It still rendered larger sprites, better effects, and more complex geometry than the OG Doom. But, this is a comparison between a 486 and an N64. They're pretty comparable in terms of CPU clockrate, with the N64 probably enjoying better architecture. That's a guess on my part, though. A 486 has a max clock of 100mhz with the N64 having a close 93mhz clock. With only 4mb of RAM vs. classic Doom's demand of 8, we do see smaller draw distances as a result, but the game leans into that. Also, the N64 really benefits from having no real background processes. And, iD supervised it. The goal was to create a version of Doom that rendered geometry and lighting way better.

In short, the engine is way better than the OG Doom engine. It rendered larger sprites, rendered them smoother, and featured better atmospheric effects. I'd be surprised if it wasn't improved over the OG. They started development in '94. They had 3 years to tune and tweak the engine.

I guess you could say GZDoom is a better engine, but how long has that been actively worked on?

[Seamus]

I'd argue that GZ Doom, while better visually in some regards is worse overall due to being incredibly inaccurate.