Doom 64 is the REAL Doom 3

[shanahaT]

I'm by no means trying to bash Doom 3 here.
But people need to understand that Doom 3 is Doom 3 in name only.
(like how Quake 2 is Quake 2 in name only)
Doom 3 is actually the first a attempt at rebooting the series.
The only reason it's called Doom 3 is because it was the third Doom game made by ID.
The actual Sequel to Doom 2 is Doom 64.
And I think it's a great way to cap of the original series and the perfect follow up to Doom 2,
it feels like a natural evolution of the original era while wrapping everything in a nice bow.

As for how I rank them (not including the current era games)
Doom 1 > Doom 64 > Doom 2 > Doom 3 (or Doom cubed as I call it) > Final Doom (which isn't even a game)
Out of all the Doom Sequels I have played, this is the best one.
It's a shame it was a console exclusive in the late 90s that had a miss leading name.
But I'm glad that people have been giving this game the attention it deserves since the early 2010s.
Now people can play this game the way it should have been played back in 1997.

[Salander]

I think the same about Doom 2.
Even thought it adds some enemies (and some annoying bastards like chaingunners and arch-viles lol) and the super-shotgun, the level design is really poor most of the time and that hurts the experience.

Doom 64 it's more atmospheric, the levels feels nicer and the enemies are well placed in my opinion.
The only thing thing that it needs it would be the inclusion of Spider Mastermind or the Revenant but doesn't suffer for it at all.

[Tamamo-no-Bae]

Doom 1 is my favorite not just because it started it all, but because it's also my first Doom. I remember getting floppy disks with the shareware and playing Knee Deep in the Dead after getting home from school. It has a special place in my heart because of that! :p

[CunkFeatures]

So Doom 3 is Doom 3 but Doom 64 is Doom 3 if Doom 64 was called Doom 3 but Doom 3 is called Doom 3 so Doom 64 is Doom 3 but also Doom 64....

Got it.

[shanahaT]

Doom 64 is the sequel to Doom 2, Doom 3 is an attempt at a series reboot.

That's why Doom 64 is the real Doom 3

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[Thermal Lance]

I honestly prefer Doom 3 to Doom 64.

But, before you guys light me on fire, hear me out.

The way the game was designed hardly give me any satisfaction when it comes to fighting. Don't get me wrong, I consider Doom 64 to be a good game. The level design is absolutely amazing most of the time for a Doom game. But, I really just don't like enemies placements and the way they are used. From my point of view, the devs who made this game are very good at what they do but clearly didn't understand how to use enemies properly to create interesting encounters on high difficulties. It wasn't developed directly by ID and it shows.

That said, there is a handful of maps that truely shines but those are the exception not the norm. Again, keep in mind my opinion is about the use of enemies and not the maps themselves.

[V I D A L]

I agree... Doom 64 is the real Doom 3 and also connects to Doom 2016 which is a soft reboot but also a sequel to Doom 64....

So if story matters.. Doom - Doom 2 - Doom 64 - Doom 2016 - Doom Eternal.

Doom 3 really is just a spin of that was meant to be a reboot.. but it was actually a tech demo.

[WhitePhantom]

Just to make it canonical I like to place Doom 3 as happening at the same time as Doom 1 just with a different marine.

[shanahaT]

that's actually possible

[V I D A L]

Originally posted by WhitePhantom:

Just to make it canonical I like to place Doom 3 as happening at the same time as Doom 1 just with a different marine.

That is more or less what Doom 3 was... A reboot. I guess you can also look it as a prequel if you want.. as in Doom 3 we see the stuff going wrong.. but when the original Doom starts there are no survivors and everyone is already a zombie...
But Doom 3 takes place in Mars.. none of the other games do.

[Ikagura]

We know.

[Ghosttown]

Originally posted by V I D A L:

Originally posted by WhitePhantom:

Just to make it canonical I like to place Doom 3 as happening at the same time as Doom 1 just with a different marine.

That is more or less what Doom 3 was... A reboot. I guess you can also look it as a prequel if you want.. as in Doom 3 we see the stuff going wrong.. but when the original Doom starts there are no survivors and everyone is already a zombie...
But Doom 3 takes place in Mars.. none of the other games do.

Right, I have forgotten about that fact.

Doom 1 was located at Deimos, Phobos and hell
Doom 2 was located on Earth and hell
Doom 64 was located at Phobos and hell
Doom 3 on Mars itself and hell
Doom16 an Deimos, Phobos and hell
DE on Earth an hell

Only D64 is taking place on Mars' surface

[Dragova]

Originally posted by Ghosttown:

Originally posted by V I D A L:

That is more or less what Doom 3 was... A reboot. I guess you can also look it as a prequel if you want.. as in Doom 3 we see the stuff going wrong.. but when the original Doom starts there are no survivors and everyone is already a zombie...
But Doom 3 takes place in Mars.. none of the other games do.

Right, I have forgotten about that fact.

Doom 1 was located at Deimos, Phobos and hell
Doom 2 was located on Earth and hell
Doom 64 was located at Phobos and hell
Doom 3 on Mars itself and hell
Doom16 an Deimos, Phobos and hell
DE on Earth an hell

Only D64 is taking place on Mars' surface

Doom16 is Mars and Hell. DE is Earth, Alien Planet(s), Phobos, Hell, and Upper Hell. Doom16 was also supposed to be a reboot given it's name was just DOOM. But fans being the spergs they were goaded id into amending it to be somewhat horridly linked to the originals (the originals almost nobody born in 2000 plays). Not that I don't mind the classic armors, sound pack, and easter eggs. I just don't think it's fitting with new Marvel style doom guy.

[Ghosttown]

Originally posted by Dragova:

Originally posted by Ghosttown:

Right, I have forgotten about that fact.

Doom 1 was located at Deimos, Phobos and hell
Doom 2 was located on Earth and hell
Doom 64 was located at Phobos and hell
Doom 3 on Mars itself and hell
Doom16 an Deimos, Phobos and hell
DE on Earth an hell

Only D64 is taking place on Mars' surface

Doom16 is Mars and Hell. DE is Earth, Alien Planet(s), Phobos, Hell, and Upper Hell. Doom16 was also supposed to be a reboot given it's name was just DOOM. But fans being the spergs they were goaded id into amending it to be somewhat horridly linked to the originals (the originals almost nobody born in 2000 plays). Not that I don't mind the classic armors, sound pack, and easter eggs. I just don't think it's fitting with new Marvel style doom guy.

Thanks for clarification

[KiRA]

Originally posted by GreyestGoat:

DOOM 3 was a marvel for graphical innovation only, it's rather lackluster.

I thought so too but when you open the console and type a few walk/run/jump commands giving u the speed and mobility like in the first two games it becomes an enjoyable 90s shooter and completely an different experience, the same goes with Quake 4 i found the games rather bad but now with the movement adjustments they are great. And bury Doom64.

[a random gomamon]

so like borderlands the prequal is the third game even tho borderlands 3 is the fourth