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Chaython (Banned) Nov 13, 2019 @ 10:27pm
Inb4 sued by Nintendo
Inb4 sued by Nintendo
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vutruc80  [developer] Nov 15, 2019 @ 12:08am 
You have 24 hours to elaborate your statement. After the deadline without action from your part i will delete this topic.
Sugoi Nov 15, 2019 @ 7:09am 
We know that the guy is being flippant and inaccurate since the legality of emulators has long been established. Not to mention, you promote the emulator with an original work rather than someone else's IP, so you're in the clear there too.

That said, I don't think deleting these kinds of posts is nearly as good a look as pointing out how foolish they are.

For those ignorant of history, I'd recommend looking at the legal history of bleem![en.wikipedia.org].
vutruc80  [developer] Nov 15, 2019 @ 5:44pm 
Honestly the issue i have with this kind of topic is the lack of effort and content from the creator not her/his opinion. But you are probably right so i will let it the way it is.
Chaython (Banned) Nov 16, 2019 @ 1:54am 
Whenever someone tries to monetize a software related to Nintendo's IP they will sue them. Saying NES infringes their trademark etc.
Bleem was early internet; DMCA's are easy now. Further Bleem was killed by legal costs. Expect a DMCA or a death from legal debt.
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Crashed Nov 16, 2019 @ 8:21pm 
Originally posted by Chaython:
Whenever someone tries to monetize a software related to Nintendo's IP they will sue them. Saying NES infringes their trademark etc.
Bleem was early internet; DMCA's are easy now. Further Bleem was killed by legal costs. Expect a DMCA or a death from legal debt.
I see you operate a dodgy key reseller store, as a partner with a dodgy site censored by Steam. Why should we believe your threats when game companies may have grounds to gang up on you?
Chaython (Banned) Nov 17, 2019 @ 1:46am 
I am not threatening anyone? LOL.
I just expect this to happen. Well unless this never picks up.
G.2.A is constantly in legal battles. I am not a partner to G.2.A. I'm a customer of their marketplace and payment gateway services. To say I am a partner is to call every person with a PayPal account a partner. You're not a partner, you're a customer, your rights are very limited.
Most of my stock is from a single authorized distributor. I actively try to communicate with developers and publishers and would be happy if they reached out.
I don't touch any Nintendo products, hell they use to litigate against YouTubers for streaming their games.
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Crashed Nov 17, 2019 @ 6:16am 
You do know there is a reason for the filter?

As for Nintendo they gave up trying to sue emulator developers over a decade ago. Unless the emulator has infringing ROMs bundled there is nothing legally they can do.

Sony v Bleem set precedent, which is an important part of the US legal system.
Chaython (Banned) Nov 17, 2019 @ 8:14am 
If they see a benefit to doing so, such as releasing another mini console, they may litigate you into the ground, as Sony did to Bleem. Sure there was no direct financial benefit to Sony; but they removed their competition by litigating them into bankruptcy. They don't have to win to destroy your business.
Most emulators are freeware/opensource. Commercial software is a little less clean cut.
As you said there's precedent but it doesn't mean the judge would throw out the case.
My mother's law office charges $500/hr for Lawyer time. Legal costs burn quickly. Nintendo probably has in house lawyers, much lower cost and paid a salary, so it's to their benefit to constantly utilize them.
Anyways they would DMCA or cease and desist far before litigation. So it's not something to worry about. I just have some expectation of it happening. So I wish to claim the internet BS of "first" with the "inb4".
Thanks for conversing with me friends.
vutruc80  [developer] Nov 17, 2019 @ 9:01am 
You are not the first and probably not the last one with this kind of argument: "you will lose the court or even bankrupt before that because they have a lot of money and you don't have any". Next time come up with at least one IP - that you believe - was infringed by 3dSen so that the discussion has at least some meaning.
Crashed Nov 17, 2019 @ 9:14am 
@Chaython
Maybe you should ask your mother instead of trolling, and while you are at it, ask her about the legalities of your online store?

Yes, the Bleem case put Bleem out of business but it set legal precedent.
Chaython (Banned) Nov 17, 2019 @ 12:37pm 
Originally posted by Crashed:
@Chaython
Maybe you should ask your mother instead of trolling, and while you are at it, ask her about the legalities of your online store?

Yes, the Bleem case put Bleem out of business but it set legal precedent.
I'm not trolling, and litigation against 3dSen would likely bankrupt them as well. Just because they would win, doesn't mean they would live long enough to win.
My online store is completely legitimate. I operate my sole-proprietorship in Canada and a German UG. She knows of my business, she is who registered my sole-proprietorship.
Crashed Nov 17, 2019 @ 12:50pm 
And how do you obtain the products you sell there?

You'd think it would be a red flag that you have to break the Steam rules to describe the dodgy reseller whose payment processor you use?

I sent IsThereAnyDeal a message asking if in fact you meet their legitimacy policy.
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Crashed Nov 17, 2019 @ 1:24pm 
Do you wonder why you have to bypass the filter? Their attempt at going on Steam was a total flop and understandably ridiculed.

Is there any guarantees of your products being legit and not being revoked by the publishers?
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Crashed Nov 17, 2019 @ 1:28pm 
To OP, where are you getting those "OEM" Windows licenses? Not afraid Microsoft Anti-Piracy will sue you and win?
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Chaython (Banned) Nov 17, 2019 @ 1:48pm 
All game keys are from a single authorized distributor.
I do not stock Windows licences. A product page exists for the purpose of SEO. There has never been a completed order for this product. [completed meaning no one has successfully checked out on this product, not that I cancelled the orders, there was 4 checkouts, 3 were cancelled by the customer, one was cancelled by the fraud prevention in G2APay]
Do I have a source for OEM keys? I have 1400 contacts in skype 300 of which are Chinese companies trying to sell Software licences... OEM licences are they authorized, generally yes, but in this price range they're gray, Companies will partner with Microsoft as an OEM, and buy licences as Tablet >7 inch, which are very cheap, however if they're selling in volume over Skype they were obviously dishonest about utilizing them with the specified devices; this is of no concern to me however as such information would not be disclosed. All is good as long as I can verify they're authorized; which I haven't taken the time to order any anyways.
You can also see there are broken elements on the product page as it was never updated when wordpress/theme was updated.
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