Is there a way to play a good version of the bad games?

[Ninethousand]

So, over 90% of the games are complete garbage, because "Old games bad, haha funny!".
I was really hoping to unlock something that would allow you to play those games normally, instead of having them ruined by things that the AVGN explained in great detail over 10 years ago. But i solved the UFO50 puzzle, saw the "This awesome super incredible experience has generously been granted to you by Mark Milk" or whatever, but it gave you nothing for beating the worst game in the bundle, which was basically just the devs whining "Oh look, my boss is a monster! Game development is soooooo hard!"

Literally every single game could be fixed with a single tiny little change!

Like for example:
- In the Arena one, you die in 1 hit. No extra lifes, no continues.... WHY??? Even freaking Binding of Isaac gives you like... 6 hits before you die at the start of the game!
- In the contra clone, you have to STAND STILL while you shoot! It's called RUN AND GUN! Stand still and gun is awful!!!
- The vertical shooter seems to be stuck on fast forward mode, and every enemy drops a bullet 5 pixels below the upgrade they drop, so you can't collect them.
- The RPG makes you COMPLETELY MISS, unless you hit an insanely tiny time window.
- The golf one only gives you 20 strokes, in which i only twice managed to reach a cave, leave alone solve the cave, which looks like it would take 20 strokes alone, but when you get there you only have 1 or 2 swings left.
- The koala puzzle game goes from "Solved in 10 seconds" in one level, to "I have zero clue how to solve the black cubes after an hour of trial and error" in the next level.

You could have made the game fun, but instead you made it "bad because it old! So funny!!!"

Really hoping that someone will make a mod or something, that ACTUALLY makes those games fun.

To me, this has been a huge scam. This isn't a collection of 50 games, this has about 3 decent games AT BEST! Everything else is ruined by things, that the devs could change in a second. And there is no way that the devs did about 100 things that the AVGN talked about, accidentally. They MUST have made a huge list with "bad things in old games" and then made sure to include every single annoyance ON PURPOSE!

It's honestly sad, how with Flash, we had games coming out daily, that were a million times better than anything in UFO50. Now we are supposed to pay for them, just to have them ruined by troll developers.

TLDR: Someone please ACTUALLY fix those games. They look fun, but nearly all of them are completely unplayable to me, because of tiny limitations, i.e. 1 hit deaths with no continue or insane difficulty.

[SHwoKing]

Overbold is a very short game so only one life makes sense. Else the bold part lose its appeal.

As for 1 hit death, there’s upgrades to avoid that so it make sense.

As for the Contra clone, Rakshasa, it's more of an hybrid between Contra and Ghouls n' Ghosts. It retains the clunkiness of GnG ie : your character stop when shooting and have to commit when jumping as there's no way to change your trajectory.

[Arras]

Sounds like a skill issue to me.

[7Soul]

If you think 90% of the games are bad at least you still got 5 good games for 50 cents each, so enjoy those

[Power_Bert]

Farming for clowns i see... i wont give you one.

[11clock]

Originally posted by Power_Bert:

Farming for clowns i see... i wont give you one.

Private profile, and spamming this on other threads, are dead giveaways.

[Illuminia]

A lot of the "difficult" games are basically homage or tribute to older games (Rakshasa is more of a Ghosts n' Goblins / Ghouls n' Ghosts + Karnov for example).

.... though I do agree some of them are too extreme.
(Rakshasa makes since, as GnG was extreme itself. GnG had the same stand-still to attack and no changing your jump mid-air mechanics. You had to really plan and be sure of each move. But I could see gamers that weren't familiar with the "Souls/borne of the 80s" being extremely frustrated by it. )

I do agree that some of them need dip switches for difficulty levels, as some of them as so much like the old 80's arcades that I put 1 quarter into them, and NEVER want to touch them again. ...... but they could be 'fun' to play with some balancing.

While early console games didnt have dip switches or other on-board options like arcades to change difficulty - they often did have cheat codes.
I'm hoping some good terminal codes are discovered that make some games more fun to play. I saw the alchemy puzzle game had one to show areas, curious to try that out as I kept forgetting which things go pop in which patterns.

Some of the games you just can't play without superb skillsets.
The "metroid escape sequence with crumbling platforms" game (Velgress?) - I have decent platforming skills & decent reflexes/reaction time ..... but I just cant keep doing that constantly & perfectly enough to get anywhere meaningful.


So while I think the OP is being a clown/troll or just has no idea what games were really like in the 80's - I can agree that I wish some games had more options. Really hoping for some terminal "cheat codes" - even Contra had it's infamous 30 Lives code. Took it from from crazy-hard "die and memorize everything" to hard but sort of fair?

[jbrodack]

Troll post

[Simbabbad]

Originally posted by 7Soul:

If you think 90% of the games are bad at least you still got 5 good games for 50 cents each, so enjoy those

5 good games for $5 each since the collection is $25.

50 cents is if you like all games.

Anyway, extremely hyperbolic first post, it was pretty clear the collection was old school so why buy it if you don't enjoy old school logic, but some games have indeed limitations for the sake of limitations, a lot of games could be more pleasant without arbitrary limits. Some games could benefit from more buttons, better scrolling, better graphics, etc. Just pretend your console was more near the 1990s than the 1980s and voilà.

This is particularly regrettable since the games AREN'T really in line with actual 1980 games. I'm playing Mini & Max (I love it, my favourite game so far), and this game has extremely modern game design (infinite lives, random elements, automatic saving every time something is collected, etc.). The "it's clunky because 1980 lol" thing doesn't make one lick of sense, Mini & Max is even more modern than PS1 games design-wise (and it was the right decision).

Originally posted by Illuminia:

Some of the games you just can't play without superb skillsets.
The "metroid escape sequence with crumbling platforms" game (Velgress?) - I have decent platforming skills & decent reflexes/reaction time ..... but I just cant keep doing that constantly & perfectly enough to get anywhere meaningful.

Mostly, the framerate/scrolling in Velgress is atrocious. It looks like a joke game from Devolver Bootleg.

[Pan]

I play a lot of actual retro games and I feel like the games in UFO 50 are absurdly difficult even by those old standards. Not every game back then was ghouls n ghosts or atlantis no nazo!

[Ninethousand]

Originally posted by Illuminia:

A lot of the "difficult" games are basically homage or tribute to older games

That's what i said... "Game bad because old haha funny!"
The only reason why all those games suck. ON PURPOSE! And THAT is the problem.

Originally posted by 7Soul:

If you think 90% of the games are bad at least you still got 5 good games for 50 cents each, so enjoy those

That's terrible math dude... as the other guy said, 25 divided by 5 is 5, not 0.50...

Originally posted by Arras:

Sounds like a skill issue to me.

It's clearly my fault that my character needs 5 hours to move over the whole screen, yes!


Pretty sure those little kiddy devs only know old games from watching AVGN, without having ever actually played those games when they were young. I played tons of Atari and C64, and i have NEVER seen anything that is as annoying as the things in these games.

As the guy above me said, not every game sucked!
I didn't even know any that sucked as hard as these games. Yet, here over 90% sucks. That is in NO WAY an accurate representation. This is a representation of how the imaginary character AVGN grew up, only ever playing bad games, missing the 99% of good games that are out there.

[Noodl]

Gamer moment.

[Asmosis]

Originally posted by 7Soul:

If you think 90% of the games are bad at least you still got 5 good games for 50 cents each, so enjoy those

Thats ..... not how maths works. 5 good games would mean $5 each, since you paid $25 for 5 games you played.

Anyway, I am interested in how many of these games are actually fun and playable. It's a bit like buying a rough version of "Sega classics" where you get 50 games for about the same price actually, but ultimately dont play 50-75% of them because so many dont appeal to your tastes (doesnt mean the others are bad).

Is there a list of all the games/types somewhere?

[tt]

Have you tried actually learning the games? Unless you are someone with accessibility issues I don't understand why the games are unplayable

[Ninethousand]

Originally posted by tt:

Have you tried actually learning the games? Unless you are someone with accessibility issues I don't understand why the games are unplayable

Which one of my examples could be solved with learning?
The boring Koala one i guess... and that's it.
Standing still in Contra is garbage, no matter how much you learn.

[supahnyancat]

skill issue. ive only beaten 5 of the games (campanella being the first) but i have at least 20 in my favorites that i plan on cherrying. these games were made for Gamers