Autokill Walderp

[danielzaiser91]

Hi, i killed Walderp yesterday 5 times, because i thought killing a titan manually 5 times unlocks autokill, ignoring the autokill requirements, but i woke up today and see he has not been autokilled.

So i assume, reaching the minimum adventure stats is a requirement, correct?

Next question is: Will it automatically begin autokilling, the second i reach those stats, even if i immidiatly rebirth after reaching the stats?

Is there an all time highest stats counter in the background?

[Fel]

The 5 kills to auto kill is something only starts in sadistic difficulty (the third and last difficulty).
The last titan of evil has a similar thing but with 24 manual kills, which is usually not reached that quickly since you would need at least a whole day killing it manually every hour.

For stat-based auto kills that check stats, it will check each time the titan (re)spawns.
It is usually not an issue unless you wanted to rely on a very lengthy rebirth to get to the stats then rebirth.
In normal cases your stats only go up as you continue to progress.
Even though advanced training requires time to unlock, the progress in it is not linear so you get a lot of the boost quickly.

There can be edge cases where you can barely reach the auto kill stats right before you would rebirth, requiring most of the next rebirth to reach it again, but as long as you continue to raise the NGUs and the bonuses of the various features you should reliably reach the auto-kill stats before it spawns withing a few days at most from that point.

[jshepler]

The AK reqs for titans are in the zone tooltip. For example, walderp shows:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3288165014

While most titans just have p/t/r reqs, walderp does have the additional req of killing the last form 3 times (total of 7 kills counting the first 4 forms).

For the titans that can unlock AK via number of kills, the tooltip will show that too. But it's an OR - you can meet the stat requirements OR get X kills.

For the X kills, it doesn't matter how you get those kills - it goes by the kill count shown in the bestiary. They don't have to be manual kills. You could do a long rebirth (LRB) to get the AK stats and get X auto kills to unlock AK w/o needing to get the stats on subsequent rebirths.

Keep in mind, you still need to unlock the zone each rebirth. Probably not an issue for you right now, but it could be in the future.

Originally posted by danielzaiser91:

Next question is: Will it automatically begin autokilling, the second i reach those stats, even if i immidiatly rebirth after reaching the stats?

Yes, but it's not like a permanent unlock. You have to always meet the reqs for a titan to be auto killed. So like Fel says, after doing a rebirth you may need to work back up to those stats again.

Kill counts don't reset, so for the titans that have the option for X kills, that's basically a permanent AK unlock.

Originally posted by danielzaiser91:

Is there an all time highest stats counter in the background?

No.

[danielzaiser91]

i just reached the required stats to autokill, and autokilled walderp.
Is that enough to trigger autokill from now on, even if i rebirth now and will have less stats than required?

I am kinda scared to just try it out 😅

[jshepler]

No. Like we said, you will always need to have the required stats. If you rebirth and no longer have enough stats, it will not be autokilled again until you do.

It's not permanently unlocked.

I know I'm just repeating what Fel and I already said, but I don't know how to make it any clearer.

You can always make a save before trying anything you're unsure of. No reason to be scared to try anything.

[Fel]

There is also no real reason to push off rebirthing just because you would lose auto-kill stats.
For starters, you will regain them soon enough, but even without that you can still kill the titan yourself if your stats are close but not quite to auto kill as you wait for your stats to go above the threshold again.