getting ready for beardverse.

[wolfwingtube]

Any tips? just managed to before bed get auto on uug after about 15 hours of running advanced training. Now heading towards beardverse.

My current power/toughness is
942, 994
538, 266

with
1805 toughness level in adv
2611 power level in adv

I'm trying to figure out where or how best to put my points and stats into the game.

I completed basic/augment challenges, I have 2 levels of no equipment, will do more, but want to raise my magic/energy higher as it was a pain to run it without the equipment bonuses heh.

with equipment I have 20.5 million energy, 12.4k magic.

I know I should raise those higher but what is most efficient way to do that right now? Just run the bosses and dump all exp into them?

And should I be running at this point a very strange place for boosts, or running tower for PP points? I maxed out in there the one that makes boosts better that costs 1, should I go for the one that gives more points part 2? should I just bite the bullet and get myself 30+ or so PP for bonus titan, or bonus exp? Or even get myself the 2% instead of 1% for boosts conversion?

Or any other suggestions, should I be rebirthing for for some things or what not? Should I raise my attack//defense to give myself ability to kill easier bossses to farm exp? Thanks for any tips I'm enjoying the game, and been working at it in my own pace, but just wondering where best to focus., or get exp.

[Fel]

Once you get the beards unlocked, the usual tip for exp spendings is to share it evenly across cap/power/bars for both magic and energy (since you would have capped speed on both at that point already).

You can get away with giving a bit less to bars for a while but beards greatly benefit from that stat, and you kind of need bars to be pretty high for when you do the other challenges, especially the troll challenge where you want to build up your energy and magic very quickly.

Exp should be mostly coming from defeating the titans at that point, later on the fruit from yggdrasil will add to that, but bosses give too little to matter now.

As you level up your yggdrasil fruit ranks and get your beards running (should start to pick up speed when you get to the next titan), you will want to rebirth about once a day, but until then you can do it with about twice a day if you want (since you don't have fruits above rank 10 and beards are still really slow).

[wolfwingtube]

Thanks I will keep that in mind, I THINK I will hold off for the moment rebirthing too much untill I can easily get back to autoing uug within the 2 hours of rebirth. Maybe a bad idea, but thats a decent source of exp.

How should I focus my adbventuring? Right now a very strange place is the best place for me to farm for boosts, is it worth at this point the lower boosting to focus on PP? And if so what perks should I be putting points into?

[Fel]

Well, at that point in the game you don't sacrifice too much by not rebirthing anyway.
The only thing you are really sacrificing (assuming all of your basic trainings are capping at 1 energy at least) are the money pit rewards.
Later on there will be beards, first harvest of fruits (a perk from itopod giving +50% to the first harvest of each fruit in a rebirth) or macguffins as well, all of them adding up over time.

Farming boosts outside of itopod (until itopod becomes the best place for that at the end of the normal difficulty at least) is only worth it if you have something to boost (drops you have not finished boosting yet I mean).
The infinity cube gets too little per boost to make it worth sacrificing the PPP you could gain in itopod.

As for what perks to get, avoid the "rich perk" ones for now (they have 1000 levels and are only worth it when you can afford a lot of levels).
Everything else is good to get, usually you want to first get the energy/magic power and cap first among the perks you can possibly get since those affect many different features.

[wolfwingtube]

Originally posted by Fel:

Well, at that point in the game you don't sacrifice too much by not rebirthing anyway.
The only thing you are really sacrificing (assuming all of your basic trainings are capping at 1 energy at least) are the money pit rewards.
Later on there will be beards, first harvest of fruits (a perk from itopod giving +50% to the first harvest of each fruit in a rebirth) or macguffins as well, all of them adding up over time.

Farming boosts outside of itopod (until itopod becomes the best place for that at the end of the normal difficulty at least) is only worth it if you have something to boost (drops you have not finished boosting yet I mean).
The infinity cube gets too little per boost to make it worth sacrificing the PPP you could gain in itopod.

As for what perks to get, avoid the "rich perk" ones for now (they have 1000 levels and are only worth it when you can afford a lot of levels).
Everything else is good to get, usually you want to first get the energy/magic power and cap first among the perks you can possibly get since those affect many different features.

I have put a few exp into rich perk, but it's mostly to balance out my attack/defense, as defense is more important I wanted it to be higher then my attack when pushing a boss. Also to help when I start doing no rebirth and equipment challenges.

oh and what is the best way to level fruit? Should I put all my seeds into pomagranant, or eventy spread them out?

[Fel]

Fruit of gold is significantly cheaper, so ranking it up and harvesting it (double the seeds but nothing else, no change for the pomegranate since its special are seeds as well) is a good way to get your seeds early on.
Fruit of power alpha can also do that to some extent (10 times pricier than fruit of gold to rank up but still only 1/6th of pomegranate).

As a rule of thumb, growing a seed to a higher level/tier is always more beneficial, both for the bonus and seeds because the formula uses the power of 1.5 on the level/tier reached when eating/harvesting (growth, not the maximum which is "just" a cap for the growth).

[wolfwingtube]

Originally posted by Fel:

Fruit of gold is significantly cheaper, so ranking it up and harvesting it (double the seeds but nothing else, no change for the pomegranate since its special are seeds as well) is a good way to get your seeds early on.
Fruit of power alpha can also do that to some extent (10 times pricier than fruit of gold to rank up but still only 1/6th of pomegranate).

As a rule of thumb, growing a seed to a higher level/tier is always more beneficial, both for the bonus and seeds because the formula uses the power of 1.5 on the level/tier reached when eating/harvesting (growth, not the maximum which is "just" a cap for the growth).

thanksw I have been leveling up the permanite ones, plus gold since to cheap.

So I have adventurer 6, fruit of power B 2, fruit of luck 3.

[jshepler]

Originally posted by wolfwingtube:

thanksw I have been leveling up the permanite ones, plus gold since to cheap.

So I have adventurer 6, fruit of power B 2, fruit of luck 3.

The usual recommendation is not to eat fruits until the bonuses are "worth more" than the seeds. From that point of view, doesn't matter which fruits have permanent bonuses or not since you wouldn't be getting them.

Some people will make an exception for FoL since they want to get every scrap of DC possible.

It's probably different per fruit, but I think I remember reading it's usually around tier 6 when the eating bonus is more than the seeds from harvesting. But I also think that's after getting pom 10. Personally, I don't think it matters all that much until tier 10, can poop the important ones, and have the various ygg-related upgrades (like first harvest perk and F o K perks). That's probably a minority opinion as it's not "meta".

If you're interested, Sayo's guide[sayolove.github.io] is generally considered meta and it suggests[sayolove.github.io] the order: FoG 2 → FoPa 1 → FoA 1 → Pom 1 → FoPa 2 → FoG 4 → Pom 3 → FoG 10

Personally, I work them up differently because I don't like unlocking a fruit before I can buy the auto-activation for that fruit. Before unlocking Pom, I upgrade the current cheapest fruit that I have unlocked. After unlocking (and auto-activation) Pom, I focus on getting it to 10. Then back to doing cheapest.

[wolfwingtube]

Originally posted by Fel:

Once you get the beards unlocked, the usual tip for exp spendings is to share it evenly across cap/power/bars for both magic and energy (since you would have capped speed on both at that point already).

You can get away with giving a bit less to bars for a while but beards greatly benefit from that stat, and you kind of need bars to be pretty high for when you do the other challenges, especially the troll challenge where you want to build up your energy and magic very quickly.

Exp should be mostly coming from defeating the titans at that point, later on the fruit from yggdrasil will add to that, but bosses give too little to matter now.

As you level up your yggdrasil fruit ranks and get your beards running (should start to pick up speed when you get to the next titan), you will want to rebirth about once a day, but until then you can do it with about twice a day if you want (since you don't have fruits above rank 10 and beards are still really slow).

BTW thanks, finally got to where I can within the 2 hours auto uug, so working on, and been for a while dumping exp mostly into magic/energy.

now at 52.6m energy, and 16.3m magick

with base of
10, 250, 000 energy, 4, 660, 000 magick So going to start rebirthing to level up beard passives a bit.

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what should you not poop after level 24 if your poop is in short supply? Just leave off the first 2 if you need to? I dont see the point of leveling temperary power if I am going to rebirth after the 24 hours anyway, but I would get extra seeds.