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kevinshow May 17, 2020 @ 6:02am
How to choose between the various blood magics?
I wanted to get some players' tips and suggestions about capping the blood magic rituals.

I've read that I should BB the first blood magic and then move on to the others (2nd, 3rd, etc)

An example of my current stats: I can BB first one with 74,000 magic and my cap is 5 million. This leaves me enough to cap the 2nd one also with 740,000 before putting remainder into the third ritual. Money-wise, I cannot yet support the 4th ritual on my typical rebirth runs, so the third is as much as I can muster.

But I've tried a few runs to compare, and BB the first and then add to the subsequent magics, did not seem to generate more blood than if I had put everything into the subsequent magics. The reason for this seems to be that the next magic rituals are on the order of 100s or 1000s times more than the first.

However, I suppose this kind of suggestion is also better when capping the spell takes so little percentage of the max that it didn't affect the next spell as much. just that what I read, didn't mention that...it just says, as soon as you can BB a ritual, do it!

Is that the case for doing BB on the first/second spell, compared to putting everything into the next (third or fourth) spell(s)?

Side Note that may or may not have any importance on the topic: On a long run where I had plenty of gold from time machine, I was able to reach Grand Theft Blood Bank (5th ritual) and could do about 300 stats per 12 hour blood pill effort, putting everything into this ritual. Right now doing about 200 stats with the lower gold income and lower tier blood rituals, since I thought that's what I may need to be doing when I BB the rituals.


Thanks!
Last edited by kevinshow; May 17, 2020 @ 6:06am
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Fel May 17, 2020 @ 6:10am 
It depends on how much you value efficiency.
The same amount of magic needed to cap the first ritual can usually get you much more blood in a different ritual, at the cost of a lot more gold, so in higher difficulies where gold is no longer the issue you tend to go for that instead.

Early on in normal difficulty though, gold is a bit hard to come by so that's the main reason why you tend to want to cap early rituals.

If you rely on offline, for example when sleeping and such you tend to want to stick to those lower rituals first even if you can seemingly afford the higher ones because it lets you generate a lot more blood while offline (gold is a bit weird during offline, especially early on).


I would stick to capping them from top to bottom until you get to the point where you can cap most of them in normal difficulty because it's easier to remember rather than having to frequently check which ritual is the best at your current stats and with the amount of magic you want to put on it, but again that depends on how much you value efficiency.
Elenoe May 17, 2020 @ 6:12am 
higher tier has better blood/magic but even higher gold/blood.

So it's pretty simple: run the highest you can afford to run continuosly.

That's it really :) If you lack gold and you need to wait until the bar starts, switch lower. (There is 10% overlaping zone but you don't need to bother until you see it for yourself and the gain is marginal anyway.)

PS. Capping them from top to bottom is actually bad idea. That will make magic the limiting resource while gold consumption will be zero. You get much more if you put magic AND gold into stress.

For example: it's better to switch to tier 3 even from non-capped tier 2. Trying to cap tier 2 before switching to tier 3 will be much cheaper but since you actually want to maximize blood/time (that means maximize blood/magic as magic is the limiting factor), slower running tier 3 will provide more benefit (again, as long as you can afford it)

As Fel said, beware of offline where you aren't getting any new gold continuously and you are only consuming what you have. But the rule stands: the highest you can afford is always better.
Last edited by Elenoe; May 17, 2020 @ 6:44am
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