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ShuFlngPu Oct 24, 2021 @ 9:28am
Question on Iron Pill?
Are the stats it gives PERMANANT or just for that particular run? Tooltip is unclear.
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Fel Oct 24, 2021 @ 9:35am 
It's permanent.

An easy way to see if it's permanent or temporary is how easy/hard it is to get an amount that gives you a real boost.
For blood magic spells, any spell with a cooldown gives permanent stuff, the rest are until rebirth.

Iron pill gives you a pitifully low amount per cast compared to what your equipments can give you, on top of having a long cooldown between casts.

Augments, time machine, wandoos and advanced training are examples of things that reset on rebirth.
On the other hand, iron pill, NGU, itopod and most of the stuff unlocked later are permanent (or at least have a permanent aspect to them).
ShuFlngPu Oct 24, 2021 @ 9:38am 
Originally posted by Fel:
It's permanent.

An easy way to see if it's permanent or temporary is how easy/hard it is to get an amount that gives you a real boost.
For blood magic spells, any spell with a cooldown gives permanent stuff, the rest are until rebirth.

Iron pill gives you a pitifully low amount per cast compared to what your equipments can give you, on top of having a long cooldown between casts.

Augments, time machine, wandoos and advanced training are examples of things that reset on rebirth.
On the other hand, iron pill, NGU, itopod and most of the stuff unlocked later are permanent (or at least have a permanent aspect to them).
Thanks for that bud. I felt like it was permanant for the cost but my buddy thought they were per-run only so I felt confirmation was needed. Gona prioritize this more now. Thank you again!
Iron pill is still cheaper than spending EXP for it so, Ill just focus more on iron pill for those changes I want. Im at 1.2m blood per completion and, can get meaningful stats when I want to save (like before bed) so, probably will save me alot of EXP in the long run of things. :D
Last edited by ShuFlngPu; Oct 24, 2021 @ 9:40am
Hypertext Eye Oct 24, 2021 @ 9:42am 
For what it's worth, you can get answers to lots of questions like this simply by reading the WTF pages in the game. For example:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2636255906
Clearly says Iron Pill is "a small permanent boost"
Last edited by Hypertext Eye; Oct 24, 2021 @ 9:42am
Fel Oct 24, 2021 @ 9:42am 
The stats are added under the "base" adventure staqts that you can see in the exp menu (don't spend exp on that by the way, not worth it until the end game in the third difficulty) so you can always check for yourself.
That's also where the (fairly rare) adventure stats from other sources that are not equipments or bonuses end up being added to.
Hypertext Eye Oct 24, 2021 @ 9:45am 
Originally posted by ShuFlngPu:
Iron pill is still cheaper than spending EXP for it so, Ill just focus more on iron pill for those changes I want. Im at 1.2m blood per completion and, can get meaningful stats when I want to save (like before bed) so, probably will save me alot of EXP in the long run of things. :D
Don't spend EXP on adv stats. Just don't.


(You will later. much much later. but not now. for now just forget that it's a thing you can do)
ShuFlngPu Oct 24, 2021 @ 9:56am 
Originally posted by Hypertext Eye:
For what it's worth, you can get answers to lots of questions like this simply by reading the WTF pages in the game. For example:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2636255906
Clearly says Iron Pill is "a small permanent boost"
Im not going to lie, I find the help menu utterly confusing, cluttered and unnavigable and thus why I asked here. :x
Ive tried to use that thing multiple times. Alas.
ShuFlngPu Oct 24, 2021 @ 9:57am 
Originally posted by Hypertext Eye:
Originally posted by ShuFlngPu:
Iron pill is still cheaper than spending EXP for it so, Ill just focus more on iron pill for those changes I want. Im at 1.2m blood per completion and, can get meaningful stats when I want to save (like before bed) so, probably will save me alot of EXP in the long run of things. :D
Don't spend EXP on adv stats. Just don't.


(You will later. much much later. but not now. for now just forget that it's a thing you can do)
Same conclusion I came to :D lol
Hypertext Eye Oct 24, 2021 @ 12:56pm 
Originally posted by ShuFlngPu:
Im not going to lie, I find the help menu utterly confusing, cluttered and unnavigable
fair
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