Time to EM cap in late game

[xirtex]

For players in sadistic and late evil, how long does it take you to reach your EM cap when starting a new rebirth?
I'm at fadlands at this point and have been using a 1:40K:2 ratio but I think the investment in bars is unnecessary now given beards can run capped for days. My concern is that I like the convenience of being able to get a run fully set up ~7 minutes into a rebirth. So I'm wondering if lowering investment into bars would inevitably lead to longer run setup time later in the game or if there's some late game features/bonuses that keep setup times low.

[Fel]

Lowering the ratio for bars does lead to a longer setup time, which is the reason why I stuck to 1:37.5k:1.875 as a ratio until I hit the hard cap for cap before switching to pure power until hitting the cap there (those happen in sadistic).

[Elenoe]

for me, once beards were done I neglected bars, they were not needed. Currently I have 130k:1 energy and 110k:1 magic. Stopped at 100M bars for both. (Ratios are a bit distorted by hard cap.)

Generally once you get to hard cap, which is pretty soon, your bars will still continue to grow A LOT. Through better and better gear, mcguffins, spending PP/QP on bars after you've nothing better left and such. I currently cap E/M at 1min30s. And I still have quite few bars sources to purchase.

But at the time getting at least 100M base bars was "required" as reaching the cap was way slower. Also consider that eventually you will be able to use daily XP to purchase 600M/200M bars if required or desired. So it only gets faster even without excessive purchases.

So plan accordingly.

[xirtex]

Thanks guys, I'll try out reducing investment in bars and adjust if setup starts taking to long and there's no other cheap bar upgrades.

[Huillam]

I still use a 1:1 ratio (which means reaching my magic cap in roughly 9 minutes). I pump 40% of my E/M into whishes and if I don't do that quickly after a rebirth I have a tendency to forget them for a few hours.