How do I get more gold?

[Poop King]

I am currently stuck with seemingly never being able to afford Energy Buster or anything higher. I am still only able to clear cave of many things but am close to maxing a cheese set, but my inability to progress is hindered by how much more gold the next things cost.

Should I be investing EXP in buying more magic and magic power to make the time machine gold multiplier feasable? Currently I have just 20k Mana and it seems like the Gold Multiplier would take a massive amount of EXP sinking into Mana stats to become usable. I get limited about 4 levels in Shoulder Mounted too.

[Fel]

The gold you have is based on a few things, but I'll keep it fairly simple since you are at the start of the game.

Each adventure zone has a certain range of gold that it will drop (influenced by gold drops bonuses), with bosses dropping a higher amount compared to the normal enemies.
This amount increases significantly with each zone.

The highest gold drops you got since your last rebirth will be the base for your time machine.
The time machine will give you a constant income of gold based on that, a few bonuses and the level of both machine speed (levelled with energy) and gold multiplier (levelled with magic).

In the early game you will be starved for gold and it will limit what you can do with augments and blood magic, that's normal so don't worry about it.
Just use the augment and blood magic rituals that you can afford.

As you start to use higher adventure zones, your gold will increase, and with higher stats and bonuses you will be able to level your time machine more effectively as well, giving you access to a significantly higher amount of gold to do things.

[Elenoe]

(and to sum "progress guides" pre Megalands: with your XP you should get speed first, then all in energy power/cap. Keep magic at 10 energy for 1 magic. Do 30min-1hr rebirths to get most XP. Keep killing things in zones, until you max out set (boost it as necessary) then move to new zone.)

This way you will progress up until Megalands without any drawback. Then the game actually starts.

[Poop King]

Originally posted by Elenoe:

(and to sum "progress guides" pre Megalands: with your XP you should get speed first, then all in energy power/cap. Keep magic at 10 energy for 1 magic. Do 30min-1hr rebirths to get most XP. Keep killing things in zones, until you max out set (boost it as necessary) then move to new zone.)

This way you will progress up until Megalands without any drawback. Then the game actually starts.

I'm currently timing my rebirths after reaching max cap reduction on each skill and I get its meant to take a while and be slow, I guess the current limit is however much longer it takes me to max and green each next gear set.

And everyday I seriously wonder why I like a game this simple so much :x

[Hypertext Eye]

Originally posted by ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥:

I'm currently timing my rebirths after reaching max cap reduction on each skill

That should be doable with 30 min rebirths.

[kevinshow]

Lots of features and things open up to you before you're really able to make the best use of it. Time Machine and Energy Buster augments are just two of those things.

There are some discussions about when to use certain augments but I can just say that from my gaming experience, Scissors and Danger Scissors did just fine for me even up through boss 100+ , so you'll have plenty of time to get better cap and power before you absolutely will feel like Energy Buster gives you more bang for the buck.

[Poop King]

Originally posted by ハイパーテクスト・アイ:

Originally posted by ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥:

I'm currently timing my rebirths after reaching max cap reduction on each skill

That should be doable with 30 min rebirths.

Its more around 45 mins with enough energy to cap the skills.

[Hypertext Eye]

You must be doing something wrong. If you're capping all skills, the final one unlocks at 25 minutes, and it only takes ~5 minutes to green the cap on that one after it unlocks.

[kevinshow]

You mentioned that you're at the cheese set.

If I recall correctly, the forest set gives bonuses to reach 50 speed in energy speed, which makes the speed gain feel so awesome, and then the cheese set takes that speed bonus away.

So maybe you mean that your full energy cap is not done until some time after 30 mins, which is the time that all your energy is available to now be doled out to the Basic Trainings?

Or if that is not what you mean then at the least, you can give more energy to the higher training and less to the lower training, so that they still reach their level to reduce the total by 10% and everything done within 30 mins also.

[Poop King]

Originally posted by ハイパーテクスト・アイ:

You must be doing something wrong. If you're capping all skills, the final one unlocks at 25 minutes, and it only takes ~5 minutes to green the cap on that one after it unlocks.

Yes sorry I dont stay glued to my screen and put points in each one as soon as it unlocks.

[Fel]

There is a checkbox called "AutoAdvance" above the + for the first attack skill, what it does is automatically send anything above the cap to the next entry when it unlocks, so if you put half of your energy on idle attack and half on block it will do it automatically at least for the first few entries, saving you time.

[Poop King]

Originally posted by Fel:

There is a checkbox called "AutoAdvance" above the + for the first attack skill, what it does is automatically send anything above the cap to the next entry when it unlocks, so if you put half of your energy on idle attack and half on block it will do it automatically at least for the first few entries, saving you time.

I looked on screenshots and it seems to be completely missing in my game!

Are you sure it isnt something I need to unlock in the Sellout Shop?

I found it, its a 300 XP thing that I didnt know about and I've been spending all my XP on energy / magic plus an accessory slot so far, dont have enough left right now for auto advance.

[Fel]

It is in the "misc" category of the exp menu, and it is definitely a must-have (at that point, 300 exp shouldn't be too much).
When you eventually reduce all of your training caps it will allow you to not have to go back to the basic training except at the start of a rebirth to assign the energy (and later even that can be automated).

[Poop King]

Originally posted by Fel:

It is in the "misc" category of the exp menu, and it is definitely a must-have (at that point, 300 exp shouldn't be too much).
When you eventually reduce all of your training caps it will allow you to not have to go back to the basic training except at the start of a rebirth to assign the energy (and later even that can be automated).

Yes I will buy it next, I have 220 XP currently.

Also I just got my last skill to under 500 cap, still a while to go to get them all to 1.