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Oktober12th Dec 24, 2019 @ 12:05am
Possible Ugg Ring Bug
Im not sure if this is a bug or if I am just super unlucky, but since it has to do with UGG and rings I thought I would ask.

I have been fighting Ugg for the first time starting a couple days ago. In that time I have gotten 4 of the 5 rings to drop several times - Greed (level 35), Might (17), Utility (0), Energy (23), and Magic (35). Normally, I would think it was just bad luck, but with UGGs set bonus it seems like that might be easy to unintentionally create a bug where a ring didnt drop.

Just to put the number of fights into perspective I have 64 hair.
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archmag Dec 24, 2019 @ 12:17am 
Just bad luck. Utility was the second one that dropped for me, and it was one of the two last ones to max.

This happens often when drop chances are low. I collect Walderp's items now and out of 8 clothes items (two of each hat, chest, pants, boots) one of which is level 27 already I have 0 of one kind of pants.

I don't know your drop chances, but base chance is 2% for any ring to drop and lets say you have 100% drop chance bonus at that time. Which means there is 4% chance for Utility ring to drop or 96% chance not to drop. Chance that you won't have that ring drop even once in 64 tries is 0.96^64=7.3%. Which means that out of 1000 players around 73 will encounter this situation, you are just one of those unlucky ones. You can calculate your actual chances for this situation happening using your drop chance values.
Last edited by archmag; Dec 24, 2019 @ 12:24am
Oktober12th Dec 24, 2019 @ 12:29am 
I think I will agree with you as it JUST dropped about 15 seconds ago - all it took will a little ol' fashioned whining to get the gears moving.

BTW, I noticed that the games hasnt sent me any checks for a million dollars recently either :P
archmag Dec 24, 2019 @ 12:31am 
Originally posted by Oktober12th:
I think I will agree with you as it JUST dropped about 15 seconds ago - all it took will a little ol' fashioned whining to get the gears moving.
Haha, yes, this happens often. Someone complains about bad random streak and as a result random god finaly smiles on him.

Edit: Lol, I also finally got those pants on the 2nd Walderp's kill after I mentioned that I didn't have them yet.
Last edited by archmag; Dec 24, 2019 @ 5:11am
4G  [developer] Dec 24, 2019 @ 8:36pm 
Story time.
Once, not too long after the update that added UUG, someone complained that their rng was broken because after over *70* kills, they hadnt received a single drop, they hadnt had the filters on, either type, or a full inv at the time, or anything. They were sure it was an RNG bug. So I tested their file myself directly in Unity and saw that:

a) it was indeed totally fine!
b) they would only get a roll that would equate to a ring of might drop in another half dozen kills
C) the odds of getting an RNG sequemce that would yield no drops for every ring for 70 kills in a row was something like 1/200,000. They were THAT unlucky.

Moral of the story: you really can have that bad RNG without it being a bug.
JackSamEss Dec 25, 2019 @ 8:14am 
Rng goes both ways; after maxing the uug ring set the very next uug kill dropped the new ring even though I had only about a 1/1000 chance

The same thing happened with the 1/1000 fanny pack after maxing the wanderer set so I thought 4G was just being nice and giving us a guaranteed first drop on the new item for set maxing.

I was surprised to not get the dorky glasses on the first walderp kill after maxing the odlaw set.
Nordak Balrem Jan 23, 2020 @ 7:36am 
You just need to pray to RNG (Random Number God)
davidb11 Jan 23, 2020 @ 8:32pm 
Currently, I'm working on getting Ugg to drop the Energy Ring.
Once that finishes, I'll have the full set and unlock the super rare ring.
sirtintly Jan 24, 2020 @ 1:38am 
I have killed UGG way too many times after maxxing the normal rings and still haven't seen 1 of the special ones.
Schlappohr Pyro Jan 24, 2020 @ 2:37am 
Originally posted by sirtintly:
I have killed UGG way too many times after maxxing the normal rings and still haven't seen 1 of the special ones.

Those really are rare. I have killed him 410 times and got three drops so far. Many of those were probably offline though.
Last edited by Schlappohr Pyro; Jan 24, 2020 @ 2:59am
archmag Jan 24, 2020 @ 2:41am 
I am at level 79 UUG's ultimate ring now and already progressed to autokilling the beast v1.
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