Any suggestion before go Evil?

[Edwin]

Just finished most of challenges, got some AP. What I already bought:

all the Hearts I need,
1/2 Auto Merge,
2 Beard slots,
1 Digger slot,
1 MacGuffin slot,
Faster Questing and Extended Quest Bank

So what's next?
2 Accessory slots? Not so sure about this, maybe just one is nice.
Or more MacGuffin slots? Some guides say MacGuffin is a "late" game work. Does Late mean Mid Evil, Late Evil or Sadistic?
And I checked the New Player Guide on FANDOM, it says NGU has a Cap. The Cap is 100m?

Well, I think that's all. Thanks.

And I watched some news, it's getting crazy out there. Take care guys, stay at home, follow some doctors and listen to them, and of course enjoy some games. Peace.

[Fel]

I don't see the improved item filter in the list of what you already got, I hope it's because you forgot about it because it is probably the most important of all things the AP shop has to offer.

Beard slots are must-have, for diggers you want at least 6 in total, preferably 8 and eventually 10 (you can go for 12 but eventually you will remove the beard diggers).

Accessory slots are nice but only if you have something to put in them that will make a difference, if you don't they are fairly worthless.
Eventually you will want as many as you can get of course but for the point you are at you really need to have a use for it before getting it.


Macguffins require both blood magic spells and both fruits before slots start to really matter, so usually slots become a concern around mid evil but the actual bonus from them comes from rebirthing so getting at least the most important ones (energy and magic power, cap, NGU and adventure stats) equipped and around level 100 can get you quite a bit already.

NGU has a level cap of 1 billion, and like everything else a levelling cap of 1 per tick (50 per second).
When talking about "cap" in this game it is usually about the 50 per second.

[Edwin]

Thank you Fel. Yes I forget to list those must buy.
I think I will buy a beard slot and a digger. Maybe there are still one or two weeks before Evil, so not a accessory time ↖(^ω^)↗

[Huillam]

I'd suggest to complete the normal challenges (all of them). Now that they have been condensed it shouldn't take too long (a day or two at most) and the beginning of evil is harsh.

[Edwin]

Originally posted by Huillam:

I'd suggest to complete the normal challenges (all of them). Now that they have been condensed it shouldn't take too long (a day or two at most) and the beginning of evil is harsh.

Thanks! Farm more sounds pleasant, enjoy my peaceful rebirth and I really love the moment of harvesting fruit :)

[archmag]

When talking about buying accessories do you mean 500k AP or lower ones? I didn't buy those that cost 500k AP but got all of the lower ones (for 8 total slots) and they help a lot.

NGU cap modifier is really useful at the end of normal when you can cap several NGUs at once. Mostly QoL upgrade though as you can do the same by capping at 100% and then manually adding some more energy/magic to account for increase in NGU cost.

Two remaining beards are also really useful, you no longer need to switch between them and can just leave all of them running at once which helps for extra income and wandoos bonus as I guess those are the two that you have Off now (they are useful in early Evil).

Filter boosts into the cube is good to let you filter low level boost so that they don't clutter inventory while questing.

If you already have access to Evil, just try it to see how hard it is. First run you should start at Evil, then in 3 minutes restart at Basic challenge on Evil (I am not sure if you can switch difficulty and start in challenge mode at the same time), then progress to boss #58 to gain some extra adventure stats. Boss #58 is the same boss that unlocks new zone in Evil, so it is a good coincidence. I tried it few times before and returned to Normal to farm exp a little more so that I will be satisfied with the speed of progression and some loses of income in Evil.

[Edwin]

Originally posted by archmag:

I tried it few times before and returned to Normal to farm exp a little more so that I will be satisfied with the speed of progression and some loses of income in Evil.

Yes I mean the lower one. I have 6 slots now: two accessories from brutal Beast, Two "Bar Bar", Dorky Glasses and Voodoo Doll for NGU speed. Not sure about Van-Gogh Painting or A Bald Egg worth an accessory slot. King Looty and Ascended x4 also looks not good enough.

I checked the loot list, there are new accessories at new zone in Evil.

Filter Boosts into the Cube looks nice, I don't even notice before you point it out! No more waste boosts, am I right? So I don't need to filter those low level boosts, or keep them filtered but they will be merge into Cube?

Basic challenge seems nice for start, I will keep it in mind. After nonstop challenges I am exhausted, I think I really need farm more to get my inner peace back lol

Thanks a lot for sharing!

[Fel]

I would argue against the filter into cube unless you are really tight on inventory space.
The reason being that it only applies the boost that was filtered and does not recycle it.
As a result you end up gaining less from the boosts.

This means that you are spending AP to slow down your cube's growth and the only advantage is not havint boosts filling up your inventory.

[Edwin]

Originally posted by Fel:

This means that you are spending AP to slow down your cube's growth and the only advantage is not havint boosts filling up your inventory.

Ah, I am confused now. You mean, if I buy this perk, all the boosts will go to the Cube directly, even I don't filtered it? I thought if I filtered lower one, like 500 and less, I only get 1K boost in my inventory for boost equipments first, and lower one go Cube.

Because of 1/2 Auto Merge, my inventory slots is okay for farming the loot from Zone. And I haven't buy ITOPOD Inventory II perk.

I filtered boost 100 and less. Does it waste too much?

[Fel]

Only filtered boosts will go directly into the cube, but it's very easy to underestimate the impact of recycling boosts.
To give you an idea, boost 500 without recycling has a base value of 500 but with recycling it goes up to 888, which is an increase of 77.6%.

This means that by applying them while filtered you are loosing out on a fairly significant chunk of stats for your cube (but keeping your inventory a lot more empty so that's where you have to make the decision).

If you have completed the no equipment challenge (on top of the 1/2 timer from the AP shop that you have) the auto boost and auto merge timer goes to 15 minutes, which tends to require fairly little inventory for drops if properly set for both auto merge and boost.

[Edwin]

Originally posted by Fel:

This means that by applying them while filtered you are loosing out on a fairly significant chunk of stats for your cube

Oh oh I Got it. I was wrong about boost drop, I was thinking Evil zone drop not only 1K, 500, 200, but also 100, 50, etc hahahahah.

So it seems that this perk only works on Low level Titan's boost drop? I filtered 100 and less.

[Fel]

Yeah, each zone only drops 2 ranks of boosts (evilverse drops the same 200 and 500 as the chocolate zone for example).

The much lower boosts from titan auto kills can definitely benefit from being filtered but they drop in fairly low quantity so when your AP is still valuable it tends to not make that much sense to grab that from the AP shop.
Of course this is just my take on it, plenty of people grabbed that even before the red and yellow heart.

For me it's about the same value as say insta training cap, yggdrasil harvest light or lazy itopod floor shifter.
Meaning that they are definitely useful but tend to be better pushed a bit lower in the order of things to unlock with AP because their impact on your progression is not as meaningful as say a beard slot or a digger slot.

[archmag]

As I said this feature is useful when doing quests, not for filtering out top tier boosts. Unless you are very careful your inventory tends to clutter with quest items and boosts.

If you have to do a quest in low level zone you will get a lot of low tier boost with up to 25% drop rate, which means (roughly, because sometimes bosses don't drop boosts but normal enemies can drop 2 at once) that you get a boost every 4 kills. With 1 kill per 2.5 seconds, that is 1 boost per 10 seconds or 60/10*15=90 boosts per 15 minutes before they are auto-consumed. One page is 12*5=60 slots so you need 1.5 pages of free inventory slots just to keep all the boosts. But you also need slots for ~50 quest items. Overall you will need 2.5 pages of free inventory slots to complete a quest without checking your inventory every 5-10 minutes to do an extra cleanup. And then if you missed the point where you had enough quest items to complete a quest part of you inventory will remain filled with extra quest items or you have to dump them for free instead of leaving them in inventory for the next time that you get the same quest.

Originally posted by Fel:

This means that you are spending AP to slow down your cube's growth and the only advantage is not havint boosts filling up your inventory.

That is a pretty significant advantage and is exactly the reason why someone should buy this feature. Although I would argue that it does not reduce cube's growth but increases it instead. As you will filter those low level boosts when you have inventory problems and leave them filtered out forever just to not bother switching them on and off. So unlocking the feature actually increases your cube's growth instead of decreasing because all those low tier boosts that you had filtered out now give something.

Although, I guess it is personal and depends on the play style. I was filtering low level boosts even before I got this feature. It allowed me to avoid inventory overflow. If you control inventory by checking it more often and/or have several pages unlocked so that you don't have to filter low level boosts then this feature will be useless for you.

[RonjaLin]

Note that you need to fulfill two requirements to go to Evil, from what you bought it seems you aren't there yet. You must beat Boss 301 and Beast v4 at least once. Otherwise the game will not let you go to evil at all. No later than after doing that, i.e. prior to going to evil, you should also do all challenges first (except possibly the NGU Challenge).

[Schrompf]

Adding to that: You'll definitely want all the Accessory slots you can get. I have 11 now and will be getting the newly added one as soon as I have enough AP.
Don't know what to put in there? Well, you will once you're farming in Evil mode. Especially now that yet another NGU item is dropping in Evilverse.
If you still have challenges to do, do them all. I only had the final two 24h challenges to grind when I moved to evil, but soon moved back to normal to get those done as well. It was annoying to lose your number progress again when switching back to evil.
Beards are important. I had 6 slots before Evil and got the last one a few days ago.
McGuffins are helpful, but there's a bunch of other ways you can get the first slots. If they're at half price, get them from the shop, otherwise you might as well wait until you're done with the other items.
I'm fine with 7 diggers (the first one in the shop is half price, so I bought that). More are nice, but I don't see the point right now.

The start in Evil is harsh. Before you switch, make sure your adventure stats are high enough to farm Evilverse. Oh yeah, and don't forget that you can switch between Normal and Evil NGU to level. Took me a while to find out :)

[Huillam]

Originally posted by Protoblob:

No later than after doing that, i.e. prior to going to evil, you should also do all challenges first (except possibly the NGU Challenge).

Normal No NGU is pretty easy (Evil No NGU is an abomination). The ones that take few hours are the 24H and No TM.