Raising Adventure stats Megalands

[Janus]

I am currently just a bit short of idling Mega lands. But now i need to multiply my stats each time i enter a new zone. Which methods are best for further raising them at this point? I already farm adventure fruits and iron pills, but those likely wont get me to 500k any time soon.

[Fel]

It's going to be teh same answer as all of the other topics about this, but mega land is when you want to do the basic challenges (all of the clears since it gives you a bonus to adventure stats) and probably the first of most other challenges.

On top of it are the adventure digger, NGU adventure alpha and advanced training that all serve to boost your adventure stats.
If you didn't grab it already, the third perk in itopod gives you a noticeable bonus for a really cost as well.

Fruit of adventure and blood magic's iron pill both give fairly little each time but they add up as you continue to get them, so don't neglect them.

[Rheinheld]

That's similar to the thing I wanted to write just now :) I don't understand how I can raise my adv stats any higher at a sigificant rate.

My adventure stats right now: 975,000 power, 450,000 toughness, 3 million HP.

I wear maxxed out Mega items,
advanced training stats around 6500 power/toughness (+3000 block damage),
a little bit of BEARd (around 4%),
130% adv stats from Gold Diggers,
500 "points" from Iron Pill/Blood Magic,
a little bit from Yggdrasil
and I have the Newbie Adventure Perk from ITOPOD.


With these stats I can easily idle UUG (with maxxed apathy ring), but it seems like I'm still very far away from beating common enemies in Beardverse.

I have the feeling that there's a lever somewhere to push my adv stats, but I can't see where.

[Fel]

Well, mega land and UUG are where the "super fast progress for new players" starts to fade, meaning that you will have to fully level and boost sets and even that will no longer be enough to reach the next zone so you will have to continue to pump exp into energy and magic stats in order to get more from advanced training, NGU (and beards if you are at UUG or after that).

The whole game from that point onward is about using all of the features to get further and further in the adventure zones, unlocking even more features that will be needed to continue to progress.

I'm not sure from your post but both iron pill and fruit of adventure give permanent stats every time, these are added to the "base" adventure stats that you see in the exp screen.

EDIT: Don't forget NGU adventure alpha (and later beta as well), it might be taking a while to level up right now but it is going to be one of the important sources as you continue.

[meltingpointsp]

Khornite, out of curiosity, what are your base adventure stats as seen in the "Spend EXP"

[Janus]

Originally posted by meltingpointsp:

Khornite, out of curiosity, what are your base adventure stats as seen in the "Spend EXP"

around 6k each, i was mainly wondering wether i just have to straight up buy stats at this point.

[Fel]

You should avoid putting exp into adventure stats until much later in the game.

[meltingpointsp]

Well, for comparison sake, I'm at the same point as you, with 18k. I feel a lot of people that do long rebirths early in the game, don't realize how much the money pit does for you. For a while now, I was at the point where I could do one hour runs and drop a sextillion into the pit each time. Over the course of a few weeks that really adds up. But if you don't / can't do 1 hour runs to feed the pit, Iron Pill is your next best bet. All your EXP should be going into Energy/Magic - spending them on stat points I think is a noobie trap. With ~24mil magic I can get 500 points in Iron Pill in an hour (meaning I can use magic somewhere else most of the time) and get ~800 if I let it go over night. Over the last 5 days I've put about 4k into my stats from pills alone.

[Janus]

Originally posted by meltingpointsp:

Well, for comparison sake, I'm at the same point as you, with 18k. I feel a lot of people that do long rebirths early in the game, don't realize how much the money pit does for you. For a while now, I was at the point where I could do one hour runs and drop a sextillion into the pit each time. Over the course of a few weeks that really adds up. But if you don't / can't do 1 hour runs to feed the pit, Iron Pill is your next best bet. All your EXP should be going into Energy/Magic - spending them on stat points I think is a noobie trap. With ~24mil magic I can get 500 points in Iron Pill in an hour (meaning I can use magic somewhere else most of the time) and get ~800 if I let it go over night. Over the last 5 days I've put about 4k into my stats from pills alone.

I cant get to a sextillion in that time tbh, i barely get to a quintillion, do you have a lot of stats in NGU gold?

[meltingpointsp]

Not really - 2-300% I think, but its Energy/Magic (power and cap) that moves you through the game. I'm at 10mil/5mil (base) and religiously only buy at a ratio of 1:40k:2 pow/cap/bar. 2 bar is a bit excessive, but a real boon for quick rebirths. Focus on Energy/Magic power and cap, the rest comes a lot easier after that. And always be in the tower, always. PP is a valuable resource. Also a quintillion is enough to make farming the pit worth while, even a quad if you can do a lot of runs in a day. Check the wiki for a pit reward breakdown.

[tilemon]

Is 1:40k:2 the best ratio? I've read that and 1:40k:1 so I'm not sure what to go with.

[Fel]

"best" is subjective, but 1:37.5k:1.875 is the ratio the game gives you through exp costs.
Most people lower the bars to 1 in that ratio at the very least until they unlock beards since bars are only helping buildup to your cap before beards.

[Huillam]

Originally posted by Downlord:

I have the feeling that there's a lever somewhere to push my adv stats, but I can't see where.

Beards and NGU will get you to beardverse but it will take some time.

[Elenoe]

I've got Megalands + UUG in a single 5 days-long run (did all basic challenges before, and had lvl 100 previous set, adventure digger is basically 100% turned on since then, the rest of features were abysmal). 24h in timemachine (for digger boost) and 24h in advanced trainings (got 375% I think) + blood(gold). That was enough to get Megaland sniping, getting a gear with few levels was enough for idling, and upgrading it got me over UUG.

After that the next alternative source are beard+NGU. 1-2 weeks of 24h runs (you keep getting UUG gear, first time you park in ITOPOD to finish the general perks), and with all that major energy boost you start raising energy NGUs to softcap in this phase (gold/adventure). Also running 1h advanced training since then every rebirth. Here's where you start getting "good" XP from titans for the first time (used manly for energy and I think I've got acc slot here) and leave 30mins rebirth behind.

Don't forget to wear all your gold gear before you kill UUG once each rebirth (then you can put it away again). This was a time I've started to use different "sets" for different phases seriously (respawn for ITOPOD, might/move cooldowns for edge-kills, gold gear for the highest titan, adv.training/augment/wandoos for phases in every rebirth), also I think this is the time to use gold blood ritual on regular basis as the bonus 50-100% could be reached easily.

I had 130% beard when I got into Beardverse. With that maxed and one more multiday run for few Walderps and getting the cane, I did challenges as far as they were under 1h (no rebirth+24h for XP, all the no equipment as autoboost + a lot of inventory became mandatory as those grants twice more boosts then boost filter and got few more bonuses, troll 3 and first few ones of the rest - all in all that was 5 days of challenges.)

And went through BDW and BAE relativelly easily (took a week each as drop chance and large boost pool is major drawback here, the autoboost was a requirement here, even the shop autoboost time reducer helped a lot).

And now I'm autokilling Beast v1. And few notices here:

- the very main source of adventure stats (beside gear ofc) are advanced trainings each rebirth (+600%), high NGU (1200%), temporary BEARd 220% (after 20h), 180% permanent so the temp one is still very important.. as are energy bars, and always-on digger 200% (one would be surprised how low my adventure stats are after each rebirth).

- Yggdrasil STILL SUCKS, so do Iron Pills. I have level 13 tree, always pooped, it gets 1700 stats by now, blood gets pretty much similar value, collecting every 12h since the start. And everything I've collected so far from both is still worth a single accessory at best (and 2% of total). Cube is another free "accessory" (another 2%, great :) ), but less then one as well. So these are not game-changers at this point.

- I've never spent a single XP for adventure stats. Everything would feel like a waste now. Even 200k purchase would not be any difference.

[Edwin]

Originally posted by Fel:

Fruit of adventure and blood magic's iron pill both give fairly little each time but they add up as you continue to get them, so don't neglect them.

Hi Fel, need help here again, thanks :D

Should I use poop on Fruit of Adventure?
I just noticed that it gives 170k/24h (Did I misread it?)
I'm farming the Nerd titan now, and iron pill gives me about 140k/24h.

And is it necessary to use poop on PP and QP?
I use poop on EXP, Pomegranate and AP now. Watermelon is lv13. Still working on it.

Is the Heart of Poop item good? Every 10th poop seems, interesting.

[Fel]

Poop is fairly valuable unless you spend AP on it so you should first try to figure out how many you get per day from itopod.
Fruit of knowledge gets one no matter what, the rest depends on what you need the most at the time.

What I do was spent poop on fruit of power beta, delta and macguffin beta but it really depends on what you want to focus on.
I didn't really favour the fruit of adventure with poop, I did spend it on the AP fruit for a while but that went away as well when I noticed how little it was giving compared to the other sources.
In theory at least giving poop to those fruits isn't a loss since you are getting stronger returns bu since you are getting a limited amount of free poop you have to make a decision on where to spend them.

All hearts are decent but if you want to get a heart for poop then go for the blue heart first, it says it also gives 10% but in reality it takes into account the "base" so it goes from 1.5 (+50%) to 1.65 (+65%) so it gives you more returns.
Obviously combining the effect of both is even better.