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cracatoa Oct 27, 2019 @ 7:43am
Daily Spin isn't Random
I ran 2 different instances of the same game, 1 on Steam and 1 on Kongregate. For 2+ weeks I got the exact same prize every single day.

Please relabel it. It specifically claims to be random but it is not at all. It is a carefully controlled very slow leak of AP rewards to give you something but not enough that you aren't discouraged from spending real money.
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Fel Oct 27, 2019 @ 7:54am 
There are various types of random, there is a way to give a "seed" to the random function, which will make the sequence always the same but still random.
This is what is used here, it is random but you can't as easily exploit it by reloading until you get the result you want.

EDIT: Also to note is that each entry has its own weight ("chance" or "odds" if you prefer less technical terms), so you are definitely going to be getting the white entries a lot more often than the rest.
Last edited by Fel; Oct 27, 2019 @ 8:30am
gamer Oct 27, 2019 @ 8:27am 
Also it would entirely defeat the purpose if you could just cheat your way to AP Jackpots all the time.
Huillam Oct 27, 2019 @ 8:54am 
Correct me if I'm wrong but you can't spend real money to get more spins. The only related AP purchase allows you to bank your spins for a week instead instead of 36 hours.
Last edited by Huillam; Oct 27, 2019 @ 8:54am
Fel Oct 27, 2019 @ 9:16am 
I think he meant it along the lines of "the daily spin is rigged to give just enough AP to keep us happy without making real money purchase of AP worthless".

And while it's not rigged in the way he thinks, the amounts and weights are definitely made with that in mind.
You don't "need" to purchase AP with real money as long as you keep playing and don't go for consumables until you have everything else you would want, but a single purchase can get you quite a bit of AP, more than enough to have some impact (inventory slots, macguffin slots and so on).
4G  [developer] Oct 27, 2019 @ 1:57pm 
yeah as others said, the spin outcome is seeded, which means that while random, the same file doing the same spins will get the same results, to prevent reloading and re-spinning to savescum AP jackpots for every spin. Games use seeded RNG all the time for stuff.
ellpoyohlokoh Nov 12, 2019 @ 1:44am 
For what it's worth, I won the AP Jackpot 4 days ago. Took me above 100K AP, but I'm still saving for the heart/
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Date Posted: Oct 27, 2019 @ 7:43am
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