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I've looked at every single conversation and log, scrolling down to the bottom if that was the case too, but I never got the achievement to pop up. Does anyone know if this requires the corrupted logs as well?
Originally posted by Spider:
Originally posted by yinyangbeetl:
Apparently I don't have all of the cards, but there's no collectables left on my map. Are they not listed as the cyan squares?
Maybe there are still some trapped in any Anchor's with non-fully completed puzzles? The boxes at the ends of the filament lines for Anchors that open up when you fully complete one that has a locked box. (You could tell which Anchor by checking for a closed box at the end of those lines. The Systems Report map may also indicate which rooms have uncompleted anchors to consider that thought.)

I- I can't remember if the Collectibles indicators include the cards (there would be a lot of them though maybe many are also in the Anchor's boxes, which I'm not sure if in those cases show a collectible marker versus just for ones laying around freely. I played this a bunch early on and didn't have time to come back to actually play until weekend, so a bit is hazy as I had mostly completed all anchors before the bridge and collected almost all the cards.

Originally posted by yinyangbeetl:
I have 6 Canary, 10 Aubergine, 9 Marmalade, 10 Juniper, 9 Vermilion, and 8 Pistachio
I'll count them up and edit this post in a bit. Usually they are associated with a given Week (Period) number, so using that method I noted previously to check if any weeks are missing by switching the Period would be good. (With the exception that we just realized with Psyringe, where there will be a couple ??? single entries strewn between some days of some Weeks).

As Psyringe, notes it'd be 56, so still missing a couple here:
$ dc -e '6 10 + 9 + 10 + 9 + 8 + p' 52

To confirm what I have for reference,
9 For Canary; 10 Aubergine; 9 Marmalade; 10 Juniper; 9 Vermilion; 9 Pistachio.
And a sanity check that they add up:
$ dc -e '9 10 + 9 + 10 + 9 + 9 + p' 56
Though, which people you're missing them from is not as useful to finding them unless someone has documented or remembers where each Week is in a form that is easy to look up; but that does confirm some missing cards. As noted, I can't remember if the ones in uncompleted Anchor boxes show as Collectibles on the System Report map, but that is probably not a bad place to start, else with remaining anchors that have closed boxes attached.
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Exotic Butters Jun 16, 2020 @ 1:13am 
I have 55 and I don't know which one I'm missing. This is so frustrating :(
Spider Jun 19, 2020 @ 5:13pm 
Originally posted by Melophilia:
I have 55 and I don't know which one I'm missing. This is so frustrating :(
Were you able to find it?

EDIT: I've included a table of Archive-card-to-Room mappings in my second post in this thread (further below) which makes the initial quick suggestion in this comment unneeded; though there may be some minor context in this one that could help.

Two options where maybe 1 is simpler if you have 55 cards but also still have not collected all other supplemental Wayfarer cards (ie. the Terimnal Map still being messy; I have to double check if Archive vs Wayfarer cards display as a different symbol): EDIT: Correction - one option, memory is rusty and I'm re-remembering the map may not have much specific to -archive- cards.
  1. With it only being one card it may be a pain but if you flip through all of them and
    compare them to this list to
    • find out which [Person] and [Week] you are missing.
    • Originally posted by Spider:
      To confirm what I have for reference,
      9 For Canary; 10 Aubergine; 9 Marmalade; 10 Juniper; 9 Vermilion; 9 Pistachio.
      And a sanity check that they add up:
      $ dc -e '9 10 + 9 + 10 + 9 + 9 + p' 56
      Though, which people you're missing them from is not as useful to finding them unless someone has documented or remembers where each Week is in a form that is easy to look up; but that does confirm some missing cards. As noted, I can't remember if the ones in uncompleted Anchor boxes show as Collectibles on the System Report map, but that is probably not a bad place to start, else with remaining anchors that have closed boxes attached.
    • Then check this items/puzzles Guide link that has MAJOR MAJOR spoilers for puzzles etc (EDIT: or skip the spolier tag here and see my updated and much more spoiler free post (below) in your/this current thread) try not to look at the other images etc which will be hard on this guide; link: "Collectibles, Corrupted Messages and solutions to most puzzles"...
    • Search the page for "archive" or maybe better "Week " ("Week" with -one- space after it) and you'll see it shows X of 56 results.
    • NOTE: The wording in the guide could later be inconsistent, but usually follows the form of [Name] - Week [Number].
    • I will try to follow up and parse this out into a spoiler free version and post it here later.(DONE; see post below)
  2. In game, open the Terminal and go to the "System Report" map and look for rooms with remaining items.
    • Note: We'll need to double check for the symbol colors for completeness to clarify here for others later.

It looks like we may need a guide like the one that list Corrupted puzzles Screenshots, but without their solution details like Corrupted puzzles hunting spoilers but no solutions to the puzzles; link: "Corruptions and Other Objects (no solutions, only text and images)". I'll see if I can get a quick list of these from that first guide but likely without photos, just room number and person+week, which can then be used with the first part of the first guide I noted above (which is free of spoilers and just talks about what room is what on the maps). Maybe later can turn that into a simple guide or note here with spoiler tags for others later.
Last edited by Spider; Jun 19, 2020 @ 11:27pm
Spider Jun 19, 2020 @ 8:21pm 
So it seems the ''System Report' maps at the Terminals (in this archive-card context) are only good for confirming which Anchors are not yet solved (but likely not helpful if you forgot to pick-up a card from an 'anchor-line' box). If it is within an Anchor "line-box" which opens, then I'm not sure it will show up on the map. So if you forget to open one (or have any anchors remaining to complete), then do check those... which might take a while if you forgot one, else consulting the below table may help (assuming it's currently accurate). If any table entry is inaccurate then please let us know here, or check with the original guide owner via comments.

Hope that may help any others that run into this type of issue. May create a guide later (or anyone is welcome to) based on this data. (I believe I can systematically 'drop' cards from my inventory by tweaking my save file, as can be done with unlocking anchors if I need to go check them all without replaying from the very beginning. I hesitate to do that though.)

The below Archive Card to Room mapping is pulled from the aforementioned guide that has the major puzzle spoilers.
  • It uses the 'Floor-Room' mapping used in that guide.
  • I can't personally guarantee accuracy, but it does note 56 archive cards total.
  • The guide has some screenshots showing their locations, but also other spoilers in and around the same screenshots.
  • TODO:
    • Later this can be turned into a guide.
    • Add links/images to labeled Floor Maps
    • (I thought to use jquery in browser with a bit of regex so others could run it within google-chrome Console in case the guide is updated for accuracy later, but opted for a quicker response.

Room Numbering
Is per the spoiler free 'Maps' section (beware spoilers) of the spoiler filed guide:
Maps
Legend
  • Red square - Anchor (filled is solved)
  • Cyan square - Collectible code card
  • Blue square - Archive code 'hidden' in enviroment
  • Black dot - Archive console

NOTE: Note that checking the 'System Report' in game at a Terminal can show any remaining 'Red square' for incomplete anchors (which may unlock an Archive/Wayfarer card box); however, uncollected items hidden in the solved Anchor "line-boxes" I don't believe are shown on the map.

Otherwise, beyond the 'System Report' map, the below table may help.

Table of Card to Room mapping
  • Go to a terminal and flip through your Archive cards to find which ones you are missing.
  • Use this post's marked-solution post or quote in my above comment to see expected counts of Archive card per user.
  • Consult the below table for specific card's location. (assuming the table is accurate :)
  • Links to user Orient Tiger's Guide's images (these may break later)

Mapping table (hidden by spoiler tag below)

Member
Week #
Location(1)
Type(2)
Aubergine
1
Floor 1 Room 2
environment
Aubergine
2
Floor 1 Room 4
anchor-line
Aubergine
3
Floor 3 Room 11 and 12
environment
Aubergine
4
Floor 3 Rooms 4 and 5
environment
Aubergine
5
Floor 2 Room 10
anchor-line
Aubergine
6
Floor 2 Room 10
environment
Aubergine
7
Floor 3 Rooms 4 and 5
anchor-line
Aubergine
8
Floor 3 Room 7
anchor-line
Aubergine
9
Floor 1 Room 8
anchor-line
Aubergine
10
Floor 2 Room 8
anchor-line
Canary
1
Floor 1 Room 10
environment
Canary
2
Floor 2 Room 6
anchor-line
Canary
3
Floor 3 Room 13
anchor-line
Canary
4
Floor 3 Bridge - Endgame
environment
Canary
5
Floor 2 Room 4
anchor-line
Canary
6
Floor 1 Room 7
environment
Canary
7
Floor 1 Room 6
anchor-line
Canary
8
Floor 2 Room 12
anchor-line
Canary
9
Floor 3 Room 11 and 12
anchor-line
Juniper
1
Floor 2 Room 9
anchor-line
Juniper
2
Floor 1 Room 6
anchor-line
Juniper
3
Floor 2 Room 2
environment
Juniper
4
Floor 2 Room 4
anchor-line
Juniper
5
Floor 2 Room 6
anchor-line
Juniper
6
Floor 1 Room 4
anchor-line
Juniper
7
Floor 3 Room 11 and 12
anchor-line
Juniper
8
Floor 3 Room 11 and 12
anchor-line
Juniper
9
Floor 3 Room 10
anchor-line
Juniper
10
Floor 2 Room 12
environment
Marmalade
1
Floor 2 Room 6
environment
Marmalade
2
Floor 3 Room 7
anchor-line
Marmalade
3
Floor 1 Room 8
anchor-line
Marmalade
4
Floor 3 Room 9
anchor-line
Marmalade
5
Floor 2 Room 12
anchor-line
Marmalade
6
Floor 3 Room 8
environment
Marmalade
7
Floor 1 Room 5
anchor-line
Marmalade
8
Floor 2 Room 4
anchor-line
Marmalade
9
Floor 2 Room 12
anchor-line
Pistachio
1
Floor 1 Room 8
anchor-line
Pistachio
2
Floor 3 Room 1
anchor-line
Pistachio
3
Floor 3 Room 1
environment
Pistachio
4
Floor 1 Room 3
environment
Pistachio
5
Floor 3 Room 6
environment
Pistachio
6
Floor 2 Room 2
anchor-line
Pistachio
7
Floor 3 Room 13
anchor-line
Pistachio
8
Floor 2 Room 6
anchor-line
Pistachio
10
Floor 2 Room 7
anchor-line
Vermillion
1
Floor 2 Room 7
anchor-line
Vermillion
2
Floor 3 Room 2
anchor-line
Vermillion
3
Floor 1 Room 5
environment
Vermillion
4
Floor 1 Room 3
anchor-line
Vermillion
5
Floor 2 Room 12
environment
Vermillion
6
Floor 1 Room 6
anchor-line
Vermillion
7
Floor 3 Room 7
anchor-line
Vermillion
8
Floor 2 Room 3
anchor-line
Vermillion
9
Floor 2 Room 2
anchor-line


(*) Note that "Floor 3 Rooms 4 and 5" is "Room 5" (in archive card context) and "Floor 3 Room 11 and 12" are from their three Anchors.
(1) Note that the Floor and Room are based on the VERY SPOILER filled guide in the url after 'curl' command below and "Floor #" Image Links above in "Table of Card to Room mapping" section.
(2) Note that the "Type" of 'anchor-line' is one you must unlock from an anchor, while 'environment' is a card found laying around in the room.

Oh right, also I replaced "Juniper - Week 11" (used in guide) with "Juniper - Week 10" here, which is included in the command above.. at the moment I'm unsure if the game actually a skipped week or a typo in the guide itself. I'll verify later and suggest the original guide be updated if it was juts a typo. Otherwise noting here in case that doesn't need to be done. EDIT2: Per my past quote in this thread "Nothing for Week 11" assuming I was correct at that time.
Originally posted by Spider:
Juniper:
  • 0 Messages as "???" in 'All' view.
  • 1 Log as "???"; (Entry 10; that's Week10 association. Side note: Nothing for Week11

Curl command mess in case needed later
EDIT: curl command has bbcode in it and the "code" and "noparse" tags can't even handle it.... Thus i've replaced all {open,close}-square-bracket with their hex \x5b and \x5d so the command still works but also can be here on steam forum... so ugly.

$ curl -qs 'https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2078187274' | dos2unix | tr -d '\n' | sed -e 's/[^ ]\+\s\+-\s\+\+Week\s*[0-9]\+/&\n/g' -e 's#\("subSectionTitle">\)\t\+\([^\t]\+\)\t\+</div>#\1\2\n#g'| sed -ne 's#.*"subSectionTitle">#==#p' -e 's#.*for \([^ ]\+\s\+-\s\+Week\s*[0-9]\+\)$#\1#p' | grep Week -B1 --no-group-separator | awk '{ if($1~/^==/){floor=$0;next} else {print $0 "|" floor }}' | sed 's/\s\+-\s\+Week\s\+\||==/|/g' | sed 's/^Juniper|11/Juniper|10/' | sort -t'|' -k1,1 -k2,2n | awk 'BEGIN {FS="|";print "\x5btable\x5d\n\x5btr\x5d\x5bth\x5dMember\x5b/th\x5d\x5bth\x5dWeek #\x5b/th\x5d\x5bth\x5dLocation(*)\x5b/th\x5d\x5b/tr\x5d"} { printf("\x5btr\x5d\x5btd\x5d%s\x5b/td\x5d\x5btd\x5d%s\x5b/td\x5d\x5btd\x5d%s\x5b/td\x5d\x5b/tr\x5d\n",$1,$2,$3);} END {print "\x5b/table\x5d"}'

EDIT: I figured I'd update the table to include if it's an anchor-line Prize or free in the environment.. updated command hacked-up more, below:

$ curl -qs 'https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2078187274' | dos2unix | tr -d '\n' | sed -e 's/[^ ]\+\s\+-\s\+\+Week\s*[0-9]\+/&\n/g' -e 's#\("subSectionTitle">\)\t\+\([^\t]\+\)\t\+</div>#\1\2\n#g'| sed -ne 's#.*"subSectionTitle">#==#p' -e 's#.*\(\(Prize: a\|A\)rchive card for\) \([^ ]\+\s\+-\s\+Week\s*[0-9]\+\)$#\1 \3#p' | grep Week -B1 --no-group-separator | awk '{ if($1~/^==/){floor=$0;next} else {print $0 "|" floor }}' | sed 's/\s\+-\s\+Week\s\+\||==/|/g' | sed -e 's/^Prize:.* for \(.*\)/\1|anchor-line/' -e 's/Archive card for \(.*\)/\1|environment/' | sed 's/^Juniper|11/Juniper|10/' | sort -t'|' -k1,1 -k2,2n | awk 'BEGIN {FS="|";print "\x5btable\x5d\n\x5btr\x5d\x5bth\x5dMember\x5b/th\x5d\x5bth\x5dWeek #\x5b/th\x5d\x5bth\x5dLocation(1)\x5b/th\x5d\x5bth\x5dType(2)\x5b/th\x5d\x5b/tr\x5d"} { printf("\x5btr\x5d\x5btd\x5d%s\x5b/td\x5d\x5btd\x5d%s\x5b/td\x5d\x5btd\x5d%s\x5b/td\x5d\x5btd\x5d%s\x5b/td\x5d\x5b/tr\x5d\n",$1,$2,$3,$4);} END {print "\x5b/table\x5d"}'

If any display or parsing oddness happens then quoting the comment in a new one temporarily might help for copy paste convenience. (Also I did not bother to inject links to Floors images per row as undoing that without automation later could be a pain for some; and I did not bother further complicating what I'd made to grab the "bb_h1">Room" sub-subSection headers for the entries that have multiple rooms referenced in it's section title.)
Last edited by Spider; Jun 19, 2020 @ 11:34pm
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