Bear and Breakfast

Bear and Breakfast

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rares  [developer] Jul 29, 2022 @ 3:44pm
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Known Issues, Game Design and Balance
Hi bear friends. Thank you for being patient and working with us through the bugs, issues and general feedback on the game!

LATER EDIT
Patch 1.1.1 has just been released on 3 AUG 2022 and contains some of the following changes:

  • Changed the in-game time at which Hank can go to sleep, from 12:00 AM to 9:00 PM (earlier by ~3 hours). This should cut down on waiting times, especially in the early parts of the game.
  • Lowered the requirement of A Good Shed quest from +2 guests to +1 guest, to slightly speed up the early game.
  • Increased drop rate and quantities of Iron Nails in the junkyard.
  • Removed some shop unlock pop-ups, as they were confusing and served no purpose (the blueprints were auto-taught by the quest).
and many more! Full list of changes here:
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1136370/view/3394043555441598268

This patch is a stepping stone towards fixing some of the issues outlined earlier in this post.

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I posted a longer list of Known Issues and How To Fix Them in the Steam Announcement section, that addresses the top bugs submitted to our support site here: http://armor.ag/bugbear

We're working on a patch to address most of the stuff in there, but I wanted to make this thread to talk to you about some issues surround gameplay and pacing.

Iron Nail Shortage
It’s no lie that the Iron Nail industry in the bear world has been slacking recently. We will be increasing the drop rates and amounts of Iron Nails throughout the early and middle game, when this material is sorely needed. This will most likely come in a patch quite soon.

Game is slow in the beginning and No new blueprints at Pawn Voyage Shop

We’ve received a lot of feedback about having to wait around for guests to finish their stay in order to receive money and progress through the game. This is a valid concern. While the aim was to attempt to give players time in order to not get overwhelmed in the beginning, we can see how this might have been tuned a bit too much in that direction.

The Blueprints for new furniture items unlock at the Pawn Voyage shop over time, as you complete quests. The experience of unlocking new furniture can also be affected by the slow early pace, making it part of the overall issue. We’ve also received multiple reports that some blueprints are just not showing up, which we’re investigating

The game will pick up in pace after the first couple of areas as well as the complexity of the mechanics, as having to wait for guests while not having anything else to do has not been reported as a problem past the A24 area, however this does not eliminate the problem at hand.

We are working on a few short term fixes that we can deploy relatively quickly, such as allowing players to sleep earlier in the night and cut down on waiting time.

In the long term, we’re talking about additions to improve the experience for players looking for the more focused sim / management aspect of gameplay, such as a sandbox mode with a more open-ended approach to mechanics.

We’re aware this is an issue and we’re working to fix it. Thank you for helping us make the game better.

Leaving this open for extra discussions around these issues.

Thank you!
- Rares from the bear team
Last edited by rares; Aug 3, 2022 @ 3:15am
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FeenixStorm Jul 30, 2022 @ 7:08pm 
Funny thing...

Today as I was playing I had a person walking around naked. LOL. Their top half was naked and the bottom half was invisible. Fun bug.
Flyingbox Jul 30, 2022 @ 7:25pm 
Took seems to have a cosmetic issue. Their shirt is disconnecting from their body in the looting animation they do just above their first dumpster.
Ackworth Jul 31, 2022 @ 2:29am 
Originally posted by Ackworth:
Originally posted by rares:

The big antenna with an eye is just an environment prop. Look in the Electronics Pile just to the top left of it for the item.
Thank you for taking time to explain. I had a look at the yellow circle area which marked as quest area, and the big antenna seems the only one with 'E' which I can interact with, I walked around with the rest piles of staff and couldn't find anything that I can interact with.
Can anyone help? This question still remain unsolved...I really want to continue playing.
GrimBanana Jul 31, 2022 @ 3:14am 
Originally posted by Ackworth:
Originally posted by Ackworth:
Thank you for taking time to explain. I had a look at the yellow circle area which marked as quest area, and the big antenna seems the only one with 'E' which I can interact with, I walked around with the rest piles of staff and couldn't find anything that I can interact with.
Can anyone help? This question still remain unsolved...I really want to continue playing.
hi! some players have reported that they had already looted the electronics piles before getting the quest and the old antenna dish item was stashed away somewhere (usually in the Bear Stash next to the Pawn Voyage shop). could that be the case in your playthrough as well?
Ackworth Jul 31, 2022 @ 3:43am 
hi! some players have reported that they had already looted the electronics piles before getting the quest and the old antenna dish item was stashed away somewhere (usually in the Bear Stash next to the Pawn Voyage shop). could that be the case in your playthrough as well? [/quote]

Thank you very much for replying me. Yes that's the case! Sorry for taking your such a long time! And thank you for developed such good game!!! I really enjoyed it!
Metzel Jul 31, 2022 @ 4:15am 
"Exit Game" emptied my savefile(it was empty when opening it with notepad). It happened right after completing Julia´s Quest that let´s you hire her to cook for you.
SassyQuatch Jul 31, 2022 @ 9:16am 
I literally just purchased the game and installed it and I'm not able to play at all. The buttons all show an error message - something like LOC_LOAD_ERROR. If I click on the button to choose a save file, the screen does come up but shows the error messages and I'm not able to click on those. I have a screenshot, but I'm not sure how to share it.
SassyQuatch Jul 31, 2022 @ 9:23am 
Originally posted by SassyQuatch:
I literally just purchased the game and installed it and I'm not able to play at all. The buttons all show an error message - something like LOC_LOAD_ERROR. If I click on the button to choose a save file, the screen does come up but shows the error messages and I'm not able to click on those. I have a screenshot, but I'm not sure how to share it.

DISREGARD. I just found the work around for this issue. Carry on. Lol
Neva Jul 31, 2022 @ 10:51am 
PLEASE make hiring Gus, Wade, and Julia cheaper. Their services cause me to lose more money thank I make and I am wasting materials building their stations :(

Also will we be able to access our food ingredients in the fridge from the cooking appliances at some point? It gets tedious walking back and forth grabbing individual items to put them in the INV and then use them.
Jenny Jul 31, 2022 @ 10:55am 
Just a thought, it might be a good idea to try and make the sign quests for each resort retroactive for the 5 star reviews. Its frustrating when I have over 100 5 stars reviews but now I need to get another large chunk to complete that quest
UnBEARable Jul 31, 2022 @ 1:59pm 
Hey so I just made it to A24 and I'm loving the game so far, but I'm not gonna lie, the fact the bathrooms have an area of effect type thing in which some rooms aren't getting any hygiene is sort of a very odd choice? Like I would understand it if the buildings were a lot larger, but having a bathroom in the corner of the motel and the bedroom on the other side not having any hygiene is a bit odd and a little frustrating to be honest. Is there any way this particular problem could be reworked? As it seems a bit tedious and a little less free in the way of wanting to design the places as you'd like-
rares  [developer] Jul 31, 2022 @ 2:07pm 
Originally posted by Big Pink ♥♥♥♥♥:
Hey so I just made it to A24 and I'm loving the game so far, but I'm not gonna lie, the fact the bathrooms have an area of effect type thing in which some rooms aren't getting any hygiene is sort of a very odd choice? Like I would understand it if the buildings were a lot larger, but having a bathroom in the corner of the motel and the bedroom on the other side not having any hygiene is a bit odd and a little frustrating to be honest. Is there any way this particular problem could be reworked? As it seems a bit tedious and a little less free in the way of wanting to design the places as you'd like-

Hi! Yeah, I get where you're coming from. It's a design choice that we wanted to add a small amount of rules around building the cabin, only if you want perfect reviews (which is the goal of course). Later in the game you will find much larger buildings and higher level bathrooms will have an exponentially bigger area of effect as well
Katzenfutter Jul 31, 2022 @ 4:20pm 
I Safelocked myself in the early game, cant start the new Buildings in Area 42 becaus i used all the nails in crafting. I would need to make a new game to play this game.
axixmu Jul 31, 2022 @ 4:28pm 
Hi, me and my friend are really enjoying the game (the art and sound effect are excellent) but there’s a couple of things that really put us off, please find below and hope the game can be improved (apologies for the English we are not native speakers)

1. Cannot choose how many items to buy - this is very annoying when buying fuels, I tends to buy 99 every time(I somehow do have a lot of coins…) and that means I need to right click from the shop 99 times every single time,,which is not a fun experience. Hope there’s a way to just enter buy max amount

2. Cannot see recipe outside of kitchen - certain ingredients need to be bought from the shop. It would be nice to be able to check the recipes while buying, rather then being forced to take notes on a paper…….

3. No selling/disassemble options - we couldn’t find any sell/disassemble options. In the bear storage I see a button to abandon all or take all…which is a bit strange as I only want to dump some of them, the abandon all/take all were not functioning properly on my end as well…It was like either my bag got cleared or the storage got cleared and I feel some of my stuff just lost randomly…It would be nice to have a disassemble option for old furniture, at least hopefully can take some of my nails back….

4. Blueprint filter by room - in crafting menu, there’s only two categories : furnitures or deco (and almost nothing under deco……) We are 5-6 hours in the game and for each room there’s at least 5-10 different items and it’s quite annoying to drag down every time to find the blueprints. It would be better to add a filter on top so easier to find what we want…

5. Level 3 items unlocked before level 2 - I’m not entirely sure what’s the conditions to unlock the blueprint, but for me I got level 3 kitchen before level 2……. And the quest in high lake require me to have a level 2 kitchen which means I need to downgrade from level. 3….. I think it’s better to have either the quest can cover lower level, or maybe not unlock higher level till you collect the previous levels…
rares  [developer] Jul 31, 2022 @ 4:36pm 
Originally posted by axixmu:
Hi, me and my friend are really enjoying the game (the art and sound effect are excellent) but there’s a couple of things that really put us off, please find below and hope the game can be improved (apologies for the English we are not native speakers)

1. Cannot choose how many items to buy - this is very annoying when buying fuels, I tends to buy 99 every time(I somehow do have a lot of coins…) and that means I need to right click from the shop 99 times every single time,,which is not a fun experience. Hope there’s a way to just enter buy max amount

2. Cannot see recipe outside of kitchen - certain ingredients need to be bought from the shop. It would be nice to be able to check the recipes while buying, rather then being forced to take notes on a paper…….

3. No selling/disassemble options - we couldn’t find any sell/disassemble options. In the bear storage I see a button to abandon all or take all…which is a bit strange as I only want to dump some of them, the abandon all/take all were not functioning properly on my end as well…It was like either my bag got cleared or the storage got cleared and I feel some of my stuff just lost randomly…It would be nice to have a disassemble option for old furniture, at least hopefully can take some of my nails back….

4. Blueprint filter by room - in crafting menu, there’s only two categories : furnitures or deco (and almost nothing under deco……) We are 5-6 hours in the game and for each room there’s at least 5-10 different items and it’s quite annoying to drag down every time to find the blueprints. It would be better to add a filter on top so easier to find what we want…

5. Level 3 items unlocked before level 2 - I’m not entirely sure what’s the conditions to unlock the blueprint, but for me I got level 3 kitchen before level 2……. And the quest in high lake require me to have a level 2 kitchen which means I need to downgrade from level. 3….. I think it’s better to have either the quest can cover lower level, or maybe not unlock higher level till you collect the previous levels…

Hii! Thank you for playing and the feedback!
1. You can split stacks and choose how much to buy by shift+clicking the item
2. yup, you're right. this is shortcoming we'll look at fixing in the future
3. also valid. we're looking at a recycle feature in an upcoming content patch. for now, deleting through the delete slot or stashing are the only options
4.you can click on the Furniture filter and then click the little arrow under it to expand into more categories and filter further!
5. Yup, you can accidentally skip past some level 2 stuff (heaters and kitchen is what we've seen most often). For Kitchen, help Julia rebuild the Greenhouse.

And yes, quests are currently strict that way. If it asks for a Level 2 room, it has to be exactly 2. We're fixing this in the upcoming hotfix and balance patch.

Thank you for all the feedback and helping us make the game better. Hope these help a bit!
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