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Malorion Dec 28, 2022 @ 3:11am
Save games keep disappearing
I've completed the game but left my save in place and my daughter had played all but the last level. Then life happened and we didn't play for a while and she came back to it the other day (about 4 days ago?) to find all the albums were blank. She started again and got through the first level then quit as normal. Today I'm going in to make a save for my other daughter and the albums are all blank again. Any ideas what's happening?
Originally posted by hummeline:
Hello all. Wanted to post an update here on this problem. We have been trying very hard to find a solution to this, and at this point we still can’t fully replicate it internally or figure out what the issue is. As the issue only affects a small number of total players, our suspicion is that it’s some specific combination of software combined with a Steam update, because the issue only started cropping up a year after launch, and not around the time of any updates or changes to the game. Regardless, we know it’s frustrating to not have a solution, and we are fully in agreement on that—this isn’t the experience we want our players to have.

We’ve got a potential path forward for you all, but it requires a bit of logistics and Steam Forums isn’t the best spot for it. So if you could email us at support@unpackinggame.com we’ll be happy to walk you through next steps. If we have your email already from previously sending us saves or working through solutions, we’ll email you directly shortly.

I’ll be closing this thread as a result, and if folks in the future have this issue, please email us at the above email.
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Malorion Dec 28, 2022 @ 3:20am 
I've just checked C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\userdata\<userid>\1135690\remote and there's 3 sav files in there; main, save0 and save1. I tried copying them to %USERPROFILE% \AppData\LocalLow\Witch Beam\Unpacking\ but everything's still blank.
hummeline Jan 4, 2023 @ 3:55pm 
Hey there! This is really strange-- we're looking into it! Can you try verifying game files at the very least, just in case that fixes it?
Malorion Jan 5, 2023 @ 12:02am 
Originally posted by hummeline:
Hey there! This is really strange-- we're looking into it! Can you try verifying game files at the very least, just in case that fixes it?
Thanks for looking into it!
I did the verify but it didn't mention any problems found. Started the game and the albums were all blank. Started a new game and completed the first level, then went back to the menu checked the albums and my album was there. Quit then started again, all albums are blank again.
capoeira45 Jan 5, 2023 @ 1:02pm 
Game not saving?
I'm having a problem where my files aren't saving. I can exit to the main menu and still access my file but when I exit the game, any saves are gone. I've had to restart several times. It seems the only way to play is to complete it in one setting. Anyone else having this problem?
hummeline Jan 8, 2023 @ 7:04pm 
Thank you for letting us know! We're looking into it -- are you playing on Mac or PC?
dKenGuru Jan 21, 2023 @ 3:54am 
Same problem. PC, Win11. Game on drive D. OS on drive C,
hummeline Jan 22, 2023 @ 4:43pm 
Ok, so this might be an issue on Steam's end, either being able to write or read save files. Can you try either force-quitting Steam OR uninstalling and reinstalling Unpacking and see if that changes anything? So sorry for the delay here, we haven't been able to replicate the bug on our end yet!
Malorion Jan 24, 2023 @ 2:15pm 
Ok, I uninstalled Unpacking, quit out of Steam & Shutdown my pc last night. Started up again this morning, ran Steam, installed Unpacking, started an album (all were blank) and played the first level. Quit (via menu), restarted, no albums saved.
(And I haven't had this happen on any other game)
Last edited by Malorion; Jan 24, 2023 @ 2:15pm
hummeline Jan 27, 2023 @ 2:08pm 
Thank you for the update, and SO sorry it's still happening -- we're still trying to figure out what could be causing it
Malorion Jan 27, 2023 @ 3:12pm 
Thanks. Some further info that might help:

I've got Steam installed in the default location
C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam
however I have another folder to install games to in
G:\Games\Steam
(C: is an SSD but not lots of space, G: is an HDD with tons of space). I've got Unpacking installed in the G: location.

According to PCGamingWiki, the Unpacking save locations are:
Windows %USERPROFILE%\AppData\LocalLow\Witch Beam\Unpacking\*.sav Steam <Steam-folder>\userdata\<user-id>\1135690\remote\

When I look in the %USERPROFILE% location there's a
Unity\<long number>
folder with .sav files in it (main.sav, save0.sav, save1,sav) but the last modified dates are last year (the folder however says last modified 2 days ago, probably from stuff in the Analytics folder that's in the same location).

My G: Steam folder doesn't have a userdata folder but my C: folder does (of course). In that save location, there's three files with the same names again but main and save0 have last mod dates of 25th Jan 23 and save1 has 27 Mar 22 (probably when I first played?). But the game doesn't seem to see them.

I'm wondering if there's some confusion over the save location because of the multiple install folders. Could the save and load routines use different methods to determine where the save files should be located hence saving correctly in the C: location (as other games installed to G: do) but is trying to load from G: that doesn't have a userdata folder?

I'm going to try manually copying the
\1135690\remote\
folder to the G: location and see if it sees the saves to load from (won't solve the issue because I'd have to manually copy over every time it saves). Then I'll try uninstalling again and reinstall to C: and see what happens and I'll report back.
Last edited by Malorion; Jan 27, 2023 @ 3:18pm
Malorion Jan 27, 2023 @ 3:45pm 
Ok, neither made any difference. Once I quit and start again, all albums are blank.
Malorion Jan 27, 2023 @ 6:02pm 
More info: now that I've moved the install to the C: Steam folder, I've played a few levels (doing dark star for the first time! :) ) then quit and the files
C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\userdata\38391959\1135690\remote\main.sav
and
C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\userdata\38391959\1135690\remote\save0.sav
have their timestamps updated. So either it's not seeing them to load from (looking in the wrong location?) or not recognising that they are valid save files
Last edited by Malorion; Jan 27, 2023 @ 6:30pm
raitime Mar 24, 2023 @ 4:01pm 
Hello
I lost also hours of gameplay and tried to understand the issue.
I'm on Windows 11, and my Steam games are installed on my second hard drive, (my C: is too small).

When I uninstalled the game and installed it on my C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam folder, it solved the issue to boot the game with my save and the day after same issue.
Now everytime I want to continue after a reboot of my PC I need to reinstall the game ...
Last edited by raitime; Mar 25, 2023 @ 8:51am
Feathered Serpent Mar 26, 2023 @ 8:03am 
I lost my savegame as well, but I found out, why. Does anyone of you use CCleaner with Winapp2.ini addition?

Within that, there is an option for Steam Cache. The problem now is: it also deletes a file, which for whatever reason is important.

Example:
Steam\userdata\<steamid>\1135690\remotecache.vdf
Steam\userdata\<steamid>\1135690\remote\main.sav
Steam\userdata\<steamid>\1135690\remote\save0.sav

These files exist in the game IDs folder. If Steam is closed and one deletes the remotecache.vdf and starts Steam and Unpacking again... for whatever reason it thinks, there is no savegame. Upon starting a new game, it then overwrites the already existing files with the empty savegame.

I was able to recover my save0.sav from a weekly backup, before I started Steam and Unpacking again after using CCleaner. I disabled deleting of remotecache.vdf in the winapp2.ini, but I also excluded userdata\<steamid>config\librarycache\ from cleaning because games also save files in there sometimes which make it impossible for them to load a savegame.

After starting Steam and Unpacking once, then exiting Unpacking I copied my backup sav games into the folder. Upon next start of Unpacking my save state was back.

Is Ccleaner the reason? Maybe, but when the .sav file is still there, Unpacking should recognize that and load it anyways.
Last edited by Feathered Serpent; Mar 26, 2023 @ 8:11am
hummeline Mar 27, 2023 @ 8:38pm 
Oh this are all very helpful for us to figure this out -- we have had another report that saving to the separate drive causes it, we're in the process of replicating that on our end (and thank you all for your patience!)
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