Why the hate?

[Pinoy_Beanie]

I understand the arguments made against EA since they don't have a great history. I would like to keep in mind that F1 2021 was in development before EA was brought in. So yes there will probably be some stuff EA got their hands on, but I doubt they'll change the entire format of F1. I think EA can make a good game without the microtranscations and pay-to-win, look at battlefront 2 (ofc after critics got to it). Sure EA will most likely have microtranscations for cosmetics, but hopefully have the ability to earn those cosmetics or the in-game currency to purchase it without having to spend real money.

The Codemasters do listen to their audience. Sure we haven't gotten that VR support, but maybe a future patch or more realistically F1 2022. Dirt Rally 2.0, made by Codemasters, got a VR update, so it's not impossible for Codemasters to develop one for F1, it's just not ready.

I don't think it's fair to judge a game that just been announced and with the details we have available to us. I think once we get actually gameplay or more articles from the developers, that we can judge whether or not the game has potential or not on par as the other F1 games.

[hsf_]

Yeah Codies do listen to their audience, but EA don't.

Here is what will likely happen with the first F1 game that is developed under EA's banner(2022, not 2021).

F1 2022 gets released and probably disappoints EA in sales figures, because its inevitable.
Development budget will be slashed by 70% in order to recoup some of the profit losses.
Development team will be halved to accommodate the 70% decrease in funding.
Priority will be placed on premium content to maximise revenue.

That is how every single EA game goes. With the exception of FIFA.

[STarScream]

Yeah, I don't get the hate either. I didn't know so many people disliked EA until now but the game should be judged after its released. I have already purchased the game and I expect it to be as good or better than last years since in the last several years, since 2015, they have got better every year imo. Hopefully EA does not ruin this franchise like a lot of people are expecting to happen. We will see but I'm hoping that they don't do what a lot of people are expecting them to do like slashing the development budget. We will find out when its released and in the weeks following the release.

Edit: One thing not mentioned on the the store page is classic cars. I really hope they don't get rid of the classic cars but that won't be a deal breaker for me but that was one thing that did grab my attention.

[STarScream]

I forgot to add, I have really liked recent EA games like the Star Wars games, the Battlefield series and Titanfalll 2. I didn't care for the Need for Speed games but I have never cared for any of them other than that, I have no issue with EA.

[2Steps]

EA's effects won't be felt in 21, that's for sure, but they will have a presence and effect in 22 and onward. We don't know what that effect will be, but history tells us that Codies can very easily turn into the next Bullfrog, Maxis, Bioware etc where they get chewed up, with all the original staff leaving until the studio becomes just a name, or they're just plain closed.

Codies are a niche name in a niche market, racing games and sims are in a golden age right now but they are still, even then, niche. This leaves Codies at risk even more for not keeping up revenue from a dev/publishing bigwig that will not hesitate to cull parts of it's company that aren't meeting shareholder expectations. EA are too big and too beholden to shareholders to care about niche markets and/or art, they are business through and through.

[mcgeehe]

EA.

Originally posted by 2Steps:

EA's effects won't be felt in 21

F1 2021 requires EA Origin.

[nyannoying]

Originally posted by 오소리Badger:

EA.

Originally posted by 2Steps:

EA's effects won't be felt in 21

F1 2021 requires EA Origin.

we dont know that yet.

[Ovan]

Originally posted by Wasapi88:

I understand the arguments made against EA since they don't have a great history. I would like to keep in mind that F1 2021 was in development before EA was brought in. So yes there will probably be some stuff EA got their hands on, but I doubt they'll change the entire format of F1. I think EA can make a good game without the microtranscations and pay-to-win, look at battlefront 2 (ofc after critics got to it). Sure EA will most likely have microtranscations for cosmetics, but hopefully have the ability to earn those cosmetics or the in-game currency to purchase it without having to spend real money.

The Codemasters do listen to their audience. Sure we haven't gotten that VR support, but maybe a future patch or more realistically F1 2022. Dirt Rally 2.0, made by Codemasters, got a VR update, so it's not impossible for Codemasters to develop one for F1, it's just not ready.

I don't think it's fair to judge a game that just been announced and with the details we have available to us. I think once we get actually gameplay or more articles from the developers, that we can judge whether or not the game has potential or not on par as the other F1 games.

Now that EA is envolved i don't expect anything out of the next games. Their first act was to end regional pricing, making the game 100% or even 500% more expensive in other regions.

Their track record is also the worst in sport games, having lootboxes in their soccer games and their american football games are made with such little effort they literally copy and paste assets from one year to the next, without even taking out the logo of the previous year.

Anyone that expects anything from EA in a sports franchise is delusional.

[ColombianPapi]

That's true, here in Colombia the price just multiplies by 3 mate, it's a fkn joke.

[mcgeehe]

Originally posted by Ice_Crusherrino:

Originally posted by 오소리Badger:

EA.



F1 2021 requires EA Origin.

we dont know that yet.

https://store.steampowered.com/eula/1134570_eula_0

It's not explicitly stated we have to use Origin, but "EA Account Required" sure seems to suggest that. I hope it's just an EA Account to play online, if that's the case then I'm fine with it because I don't play F1 games online anyways.

[g]

Originally posted by 2Steps:

EA's effects won't be felt in 21, that's for sure, but they will have a presence and effect in 22 and onward. We don't know what that effect will be, but history tells us that Codies can very easily turn into the next Bullfrog, Maxis, Bioware etc where they get chewed up, with all the original staff leaving until the studio becomes just a name, or they're just plain closed.

Codies are a niche name in a niche market, racing games and sims are in a golden age right now but they are still, even then, niche. This leaves Codies at risk even more for not keeping up revenue from a dev/publishing bigwig that will not hesitate to cull parts of it's company that aren't meeting shareholder expectations. EA are too big and too beholden to shareholders to care about niche markets and/or art, they are business through and through.

first of all, you already must've felt the effect with the increase of price. plus, it's already stated that you got to have an EA Account (which is probably Origin) to play this game online, so impact is already there. and adding microtransactions/lootboxes is not something that hard to pull off from the technical side of things, so you're wrong, effect is already there and it might get even worse

[2Steps]

Originally posted by nightraven:

first of all, you already must've felt the effect with the increase of price. plus, it's already stated that you got to have an EA Account (which is probably Origin) to play this game online, so impact is already there. and adding microtransactions/lootboxes is not something that hard to pull off from the technical side of things, so you're wrong, effect is already there and it might get even worse

Use of Origin and screwing with the regional pricing is a publishing issue and not what I intended to criticize, I was talking about the development of the games '22 onwards.

That said though you aren't wrong. '21 will remain in the iteration pipeline for the series Codies were chasing, and even if they keep an effective amount of control for '22 onwards the distribution has already had a massively negative affect for a lot of people.

[Kalarian]

Originally posted by hsf_:

Yeah Codies do listen to their audience, but EA don't.

Here is what will likely happen with the first F1 game that is developed under EA's banner(2022, not 2021).

F1 2022 gets released and probably disappoints EA in sales figures, because its inevitable.
Development budget will be slashed by 70% in order to recoup some of the profit losses.
Development team will be halved to accommodate the 70% decrease in funding.
Priority will be placed on premium content to maximise revenue.

That is how every single EA game goes. With the exception of FIFA.

Lmao what? That's ESPECIALLY what happened to FIFA. They gutted the development for that game, that's why you get literally no changes in 8 years and nothing but premium cash grab trash

[Kalarian]

Originally posted by STarScream:

I have no issue with EA.

You're the reason gaming sucks these days. People like you are why we get half finished games on release that are packed with micro transactions.

[coth]

Because Wilson and his EA are hating, exploiting and ripping off people from poor countries. And because they make poor small games positioning and selling them as AAA games.

[hsf_]

Originally posted by Kalarian:

Originally posted by hsf_:

Yeah Codies do listen to their audience, but EA don't.

Here is what will likely happen with the first F1 game that is developed under EA's banner(2022, not 2021).

F1 2022 gets released and probably disappoints EA in sales figures, because its inevitable.
Development budget will be slashed by 70% in order to recoup some of the profit losses.
Development team will be halved to accommodate the 70% decrease in funding.
Priority will be placed on premium content to maximise revenue.

That is how every single EA game goes. With the exception of FIFA.

Lmao what? That's ESPECIALLY what happened to FIFA. They gutted the development for that game, that's why you get literally no changes in 8 years and nothing but premium cash grab trash

It surprises me about FIFA to be honest, that is their cash cow game and I would have thought they would keep on top of that.

Looks like EA is even worse than I thought. I didn't think that was possible to be honest.