What is wrong with the AI performance ?

[Marshall_maz]

Hi all , just started a career ( normal career not My Team ).
Race 1 I get pole and win the race and is slightly faster than the AI. Race 2 the AI suddenly is 1.5 seconds a lap faster than me and I can't even get top 10 in any session. How the heck does THAT work ? I didn't change any settings from race 1 to 2.

[Dreagon]

The AI is very inconsistent this game, that's what's happening. But it also might be that you are simply worse at spain than at bahrain. For me it's a combination of the two.

[Aidan]

AI need an update to fix inconsistency in performance, some are faster on certain tracks no matter how good their car is, must have something to do with driver stats maybe

[つづく]

The bloody AI has been messed up in 2020 too. I have no idea how they don't fix the blooing thing by now, it's been years upon years. I have all the games, it's gotten better, but it's still bad! Atari did it better in bloody 2004, I swears!

[rotax]

tracks with sweeping corners the AI are stupidly fast as they have far superior grip and can take corners flat.

tracks like spain, zandvoort etc

its been a problem for a while

[つづく]

Originally posted by rotax:

tracks with sweeping corners the AI are stupidly fast as they have far superior grip and can take corners flat.

tracks like spain, zandvoort etc

its been a problem for a while

Yeah I made these comments in '19. The AI is directly linked to the tires. If you use a cheat program, screw with the tire grip. You just lower it a tad lower than the actual degridation rate they fly off track. I still don't understand the algorithm, but in everything that uses tires heavily (like high speed corners) they will always be better and they will only simulate corrections by over-throttling turn exit.

[Panda Stanla]

AI is not balanced in thius game, not new, it's like that since years, you have the difficulty level of AI but also a difficulty level per track who is from easy (bahrain for example) to difficult (monaco for example) so that mean with the same AI level they will be more competitive on difficult track than the easy one

[Jay24]

Wait until you get to Zandvoort, I normally play on 80-85 depending on car performance/R&D throughout career.
Done Belgium and came top 2 with a comfortable and competitive pace, went to Zandvoort and was bottom 3 in FP1 and FP2 thinking it was just me, dropped the difficulty down to 60 and the cars were still nearly 1-2 seconds faster putting me in the bottom 5.

The Dutch track is one where the AI really needs to be reconfigured.

[MistaHMimE]

Originally posted by Trrcn:

The bloody AI has been messed up in 2020 too. I have no idea how they don't fix the blooing thing by now, it's been years upon years. I have all the games, it's gotten better, but it's still bad! Atari did it better in bloody 2004, I swears!

AI has always been messed up then they too carefull then they too careless. They always keep driving when they spin you around or when you spin and want to recover. Also when it comes down to the AI pace i play the sam difficulty as i have ever since i start playing these games (2010) and i can't even get out of last place ANYWHERE i am even 2+ seconds slower then the nr 19 in practice and quali its ridiculous. But no suprise cause: EA Sports it's in ya ass.

[VexorG]

+1 for issues at Zandvoort.
Granted I'm sure I could be better at the track....but the AI can run sector 2 flat out!
After a lot of practice, trial and error I still lose vast amounts of time to them in that sector.
They seem to have unlimited grip there and their turn-in is unreal....
This is what I'm trying to describe https://youtu.be/3sFmCoDi2NA?t=476
TRL loses 7 tenths in 3 corners....madness

[MistaHMimE]

Yeah i wonder if this was just an legit error on Codemasters end or if the big EA moneygrab has started.

[Marshall_maz]

I have never had this big discrepancies between tracks. Previous versions I had 0.5 seconds faster AI on certain tracks. But I never had this bad where it is up to 2 seconds difference. Major blunder by Codemasters in this version.

And I don't think that EA have anything to do with this issue. EA don't develop the game , Codemasters does and this is a developer error. This is a game bug that needs to be fixed , simple as that. Whether Codemasters will acknowledge the issue and actually fix it is another story. It's very disappointing to see basic issues like this in a version of the game that should by now be very very polished after they have done it for so long now and basically just make some tweaks and additions each year. Something like AI should really not be an issue by now and should have been sorted long ago in the series already.

[alexbest]

Originally posted by Jay24:

Wait until you get to Zandvoort, I normally play on 80-85 depending on car performance/R&D throughout career.
Done Belgium and came top 2 with a comfortable and competitive pace, went to Zandvoort and was bottom 3 in FP1 and FP2 thinking it was just me, dropped the difficulty down to 60 and the cars were still nearly 1-2 seconds faster putting me in the bottom 5.

The Dutch track is one where the AI really needs to be reconfigured.

yeah same to me zandvoort is aa mess...i have to retire my car they were just too fast...

[MistaHMimE]

Originally posted by alexbest:

Originally posted by Jay24:

Wait until you get to Zandvoort, I normally play on 80-85 depending on car performance/R&D throughout career.
Done Belgium and came top 2 with a comfortable and competitive pace, went to Zandvoort and was bottom 3 in FP1 and FP2 thinking it was just me, dropped the difficulty down to 60 and the cars were still nearly 1-2 seconds faster putting me in the bottom 5.

The Dutch track is one where the AI really needs to be reconfigured.

yeah same to me zandvoort is aa mess...i have to retire my car they were just too fast...

Yeah heard that more often about specificly Zandvoort is always played 90-95 i thought well time to crank it up but 2021 is the wrong time for that. And scary to hear that even 60 is gonna be a pain. aka if i knew before i had all these hours i was still able to refund. RIP F1 career.

[MistaHMimE]

Originally posted by Marshall_maz:

I have never had this big discrepancies between tracks. Previous versions I had 0.5 seconds faster AI on certain tracks. But I never had this bad where it is up to 2 seconds difference. Major blunder by Codemasters in this version.

And I don't think that EA have anything to do with this issue. EA don't develop the game , Codemasters does and this is a developer error. This is a game bug that needs to be fixed , simple as that. Whether Codemasters will acknowledge the issue and actually fix it is another story. It's very disappointing to see basic issues like this in a version of the game that should by now be very very polished after they have done it for so long now and basically just make some tweaks and additions each year. Something like AI should really not be an issue by now and should have been sorted long ago in the series already.

I actualy think it IS EA having anyhting to do with it. Look how last minute all the looks had to be adapted to EA. And knowing EA some features would have been pushed. Owner has final say no matter who the dev is. EA always buys companies then ruin theire games. Don't forget Codemasters got the rights cause studio liverpool's deal ended and they on there turn got the rights cause EA neglected them and kept them hostage for a few years. There is a reason WHY the F1 sereis by EA stopped.

[Hyindoo]

Originally posted by VexorG:

+1 for issues at Zandvoort.
Granted I'm sure I could be better at the track....but the AI can run sector 2 flat out!
After a lot of practice, trial and error I still lose vast amounts of time to them in that sector.
They seem to have unlimited grip there and their turn-in is unreal....
This is what I'm trying to describe https://youtu.be/3sFmCoDi2NA?t=476
TRL loses 7 tenths in 3 corners....madness

Driving at 100 ai (controller) and i was pretty competitive with 5th place in standings with an alpha tauri. Jumped to zandvoort (specially good on this track in f12020), was 2nd fp1 and fp2-fp3-couldn't achieve top15 and gettin 17th in Q1.
And on top of that everyone is doing a 1 pit strat. going with 13-14 laps with soft, even tsunoda with 25 laps medium. Can't get my hard to last 20ish laps when trying to hang with their pace..
2nd sector flat out everytime, everyone. They are on rails doing some minor adjustments corner exit. No brake locks even on the start. Before Zandvoort it was pretty spot on with ai.
And Ricciardo is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ OP. WT....