Advice on beating "The Purist?" (Challenge 10)

[BreeCheese]

Greetings all. I have beaten all challenges except for The Purist. Does anyone here have any adivce on beating it? All I can seem to do is hope I get extremely lucky and find Epic Fetus or something.

[Mech-Enzy]

got platinum god about a week ago! yeah, the purist really puts your survival/inginuity skills to the ultimate test. all the advice above is very good. i would say the main focal point for the purist is to work with your hearts and use them to trade in for upgrades or cash while maintaining a good amount of hearts to keep youself safe as well.

also, the Candle is a great item to have with you for this achievement, and is moderately easy to find in shops once you've unlocked it (dark was the night challenge).

@mojo7771
you should try the Purist challenge. it makes the player focus on their own know-how and instincts. yes, TBoI is random with each playthrough, but if each playthrough were the same, it wouldn't make the game as challenging as it is. just gotta keep on truckin'!

also, don't call such a great game a waste of time. it has beautiful artwork, enticing music, even a tiny little story to it. three types of art brought together and made so that you can interact with it. you may have not enjoyed it, but the people who made it tried their hardest so that you might have something to do in your spare time. "thanks for trying your best" is all they want to hear.

[Mojo]

I did'nt said it was a totally waste of time but at a certain point it becomes one cause difficulty is based on luck , if you have the right items you can go far otherwise even if the playthrough are random (and i really like random) it feels the same .
When you arrive in the last level i feel like exploring rooms is ♥♥♥♥ and you have better chances keeping hearts and going directly to the boss .
I have no addon by the way , no trinklet ect , dunno if it makes the game harder.

[Mojo]

Diposting pertama kali oleh DeViLMaN666_Qc:

sure just like poker lets have a royal flush everyhand it would be easier to win millions >> such a stupid way to see this game

It's nothing like poker and i'm just talking about when the game should be beat.
Even if a game go far in difficulty there will be always people trying over over and wasting time to finish it.
Did the devs bet their own game here ?
I like difficulties when you can handle it with your brain and not with luck cause i don't have time repeting this game over and over.

[BreeCheese]

Diposting pertama kali oleh mojo7771:

I have no addon by the way , no trinklet ect , dunno if it makes the game harder.

It does. You do get the added bonus of trinkets, but they're negated (in my opinion) by the more diffcult substitute floors and random curse chance at the beginning of each floor. Had I known all this, I probably would've waited until I got Golden God before buying Wrath of The Lamb.

[⎛⎝DeViLMaN666⎠⎞]

Diposting pertama kali oleh mojo7771:

Diposting pertama kali oleh DeViLMaN666_Qc:

sure just like poker lets have a royal flush everyhand it would be easier to win millions >> such a stupid way to see this game

It's nothing like poker and i'm just talking about when the game should be beat.
Even if a game go far in difficulty there will be always people trying over over and wasting time to finish it.
Did the devs bet their own game here ?
I like difficulties when you can handle it with your brain and not with luck cause i don't have time repeting this game over and over.

game can STILL be beat even with bad item since no its not only luck unless you really bad and is the only CHANCE you have to beat the game , your dodge skill matter ALOT what decision you made can save your run or ruin it or your knowledge about the game ennemy/boss bug/glitch item , synergy etc there alot of thing to know so stop whinning it's a game you meant to die and retry alot when you start , then if you feel you getting cheating by luck then go play Super Meat boy where its 100% platform skill but also a die and retry so you might find something else to cry about saying its waste of time...

[theRamenWithin]

Is this argument still going on? From his first post you should recognise that he was upset about not being able to complete the game and was never going to accept an explanation that blame his own incompetence.

Don't even start feeding these kinds of people. It's like argueing with someone who thinks FTL is about luck rather than reasonable risk taking.

[⎛⎝DeViLMaN666⎠⎞]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Shoot the Doctor FIRST!:

Is this argument still going on? From his first post you should recognise that he was upset about not being able to complete the game and was never going to accept an explanation that blame his own incompetence.

Don't even start feeding these kinds of people. It's like argueing with someone who thinks FTL is about luck rather than reasonable risk taking.

yeah i know see all my reply they all short and didnt bothered to explain him something idc if he dont like it but idk in my last post i feel like pointing out some other thing that make Isaac not only a luck game

[Mojo]

Of course there is a part of skills but as i have said some rooms are harder then bosses due to over tearing from everywhere and sure you need to have a good global visualisation of the room and i dunno how to improve this , it's inner thing i think.
When i first meet Scrolex i just thought what a ♥♥♥♥ cause it's far in the game and it's the easiest boss.
In my youth i should have spend more time on this but i had my quota of "die and retry" games even if this game isn't mostly one of them because of random and that's why i first love it but the point is if you want to beat it you gotta need luck of course and a lot of time more than skills.
I"m gonna check the stats about that but sure i'm not wrong.

[Hunts]

Hopy ♥♥♥♥, right after reading this topic (because I had failed in The Purist -challenge for at least 12 times), in the first basement, I went into the sacrifice room, found one devil chest that contained 2 troll bombs, but there was another door to the secret room, and right there, right there I found it. Epic Fetus <3 <3 <3 Damn I'm so lucky. And now, if you'll excuse me, I have a final challenge to beat!

[Min]

Guys, please, can we just get back on topic?

Anyway, my honest advice is to try for a long time, but take breaks if you get frustrated. Also, try not to get hit because that way you might be able to get acess to the Devil Room and some useful items.

[Hunts]

Finished The Purist challenge an hour ago or so, here's a couple screenshots I took with puush (of which items I had etc. to help you guys out or something that way).
So, as I said in the previous post, I found Epic Fetus on the very first floor in a secret room, but here's the screenshots from which items I had obtained after that.

http://puu.sh/3uNg1 Basement 2, met 2 beggars in this floor, which both of them gave me lunch, also found 1UP in the secret room.
http://puu.sh/3uNgs Character appearance in Basement 2.

http://puu.sh/3uO8z In the Cathedral, just before I'm off to beat myself up, I've gathered some loot along the way, not too useful at that point because most of them were 'Tears Up' items. Although I had 'Blood Penny' trinket just before I picked up the Curved Horn in Cathedral, and it was very useful.
http://puu.sh/3uO8e Isaac's appearance in Cathedral, I had killed 3 of the Harbringers so I had small Meat Boy to assist me as well. One Devil Room encountered where I found the Monster Manuel, which I saw pretty useless, since the familiars I summoned shot only one tear per missile, no matter what.

http://puu.sh/3uOe0 And finally this, to prove you guys I finished the challenge legitimately. Good luck on beating the final challenge, my friends! You're definitely going to need it.

[G-What]

One thing I just discovered: SHOPS. I just tried it for the first time and barely got killed by Isaac when he had two hits left. But here's the thing:
ALWAYS GO INTO SHOPS.
Even if you know Greed is in there, he'll either drop money or a Steam Sale, which will help with more shops. The main objective is to get a map, to find secret rooms, or Candle, to beat bosses easily.
Shops. Shops and beggars.

[Oliver Queen]

I get a epic fetus on practically ever run these days.

[TintedHalo]

Wow, I think I just got the luckiest run I've ever gotten when attempting The Purist. I did the character change glitch to start off as Maggy, and In a curse room on the first floor, I got a telepills which took me to the "I am error" room. There, I got 2 health up pills and three balls of steel pills. I was able to teleport back into the floor with another telepill in the I am error room, and got the crate from the boss, which gave me another health up and the heirophant card. On the next floor, I got Steven from a golden chest in a tinted rock, then got the 8 ball from the boss, with the moon tarot card. I teleported into the secret room, and what was there? EPIC FETUS... (This also happened to be my first time getting epic fetus). I'm in the middle of this run now, so if I lose, please remind me to delete the game from my laptop. The point of this comment is to show that a large amount of this game, IS in fact, luck. :3

[Taita]

Hello. I have tried The Purist challenge yesterday for first time and I was able to find Sacred Heart & Candle. From this moment it was an easy run. I killed Isaac in the catherdal and went to The Chest for first time ever and made it too. So I made the purist achiev AND the chest room achiev with Isaac. I was wondering if I was just lucky so i googled it and thats how I get here to the forum. Now I know how lucky I am :). Oh, and I got the Candle from a beggar.