Advice for a NO damage run?

[Commanduf]

Hey, on a spree to get all achivs, in last few days i have gone from 3 mom kills to bout 23 over somethnig. Anyway i need advice on how to get a run from start to as far as possible (at LEAST beating womb 2) without takign any dmg.

I was thniking large marge challange as that would condense the floors so i could get cave boy, depth boy, mama boy in 1 floor rather than 2 floors (don't think large marge has womb part actually) and i can't decide which isaac would be best.

Judas maybe since health dosen't matter in this run, or cain because he could get lucky and get a flying item early wich would help to avoid dmg.

so, any advice?

[Dingus]

Play as Samson, bloodlust is really useful in the womb. (and despite everyone about to come in and hurr durr lump of coal. lump of coal is really common and stacks well with bloodlust)

[ZeroT]

thanks for the advice

[Commanduf]

kay... bit vuage but thanks XD

[Bender]

Since you want to do a no damage run, I think you should pick Judas. It doesn't matter that he only has 1 red heart since your goal is to never get hit. Judas starts from the beginning with the highest damage, he has Book of Belial and he has a decent range (and you probably want to stay as far as you can from mobs or else I would've suggested Cain).
I also think it might be easier if you try to get 1 achievement in 1 run, not all of them in the same run. For example this will allow you to take Spirit of the night when finishing an early set of floors and give you a lot chances to finish the next set without taking damage.
And from my experience the dark boy (or whatever achievement is for finishing the depths without taking damage) is the hardest.
Good luck!

[Commanduf]

tnx for the advice, i know i don't need to do it all in 1 run, but i would liek to as a personal goal, a whole run taking no dmg would be boss :D

[Bender]

It's also pretty impossible without cheating or using exploits. On a very good day I would say that a Sheol run might be possible but a full cathedral and chest.... I really doubt that. Just think about it:
- no way to take deals with the devil
- can't use the blood bank
- can't use polaroid invincibility
- no curse rooms
You might be able to make it with Dr. Fetus or Epic Fetus but after a while those get really boring.

[Commanduf]

Eh, if you go cain u get better drops, if got epic fetus and flying item from angel room then your chances are up like 1000% (Every time i get epic fetus i think to myself "well thats this run done!") XD

[Bender]

That's not true from what I know. Cain doesn't get more drops. He just always gets good/neutral pills and because of the lucky foot you have more chances to win at arcades and pretty much win every time at fortune tellers. It has absolutely no effect on the items you receive or the possibility of getting angel rooms.

[Bender]

Luck in general has no effect on the items you get. It just gives you higher chances of winning at arcades and better chances of using tear effect (like poison, freezing, slowing etc.).

[Commanduf]

weird, i swear when i play as cain i always get great drops, got spirit of the night from judgement on basement 1, epic fetus in basement 1 and stuff 0_o

[The Comedian]

Cain doesn't have better drop. Look up on wiki what his Lucky Foot does.
I think, no damage run is best with Judas, because of biggest damage output and decent speed. You should consider starting on Large Marge challenge (XL floors) or Isaac Was Good Today (it gives you more damage, speed and also ability to fly).
P.S. You can start a challenge with any character if you are fast enough,

[Commanduf]

good progress so far, got basment by and splenuker boy :D still working on dark boy and mamas boy :/

[Bender]

Getting spirit of the night on basement is just very lucky, especially since you can't get a deal with the devil on the first floor (unless it's an xl floor) and that only leaves devil begger (judgement) or curse rooms.

[Rylirk]

Don't ever get the odd mushroom with the flat top... the increased hitbox isnt worth the increased damage

[kchain]

Pro Tip - Hide in the corner and whoever comes close, RUN THE HELL AWAY.