What is this update obsession?

[ᎤᏬᎥᏋᏖᏁᏋᏕᏕ]

Why are you so obsessed with the update? After playing the update for a few days, you will start waiting for a new update for months. Wtf? Get rid of this paradox addiction, calm down a bit, forget about massages and go to a real massage parlor

[[HRTMT] STFN]

Then ask the developers how many updates they have been made since the Steam release in early 2022. I can tell you. In 2 years they managed to bring 1 new character, the mermaid, into the game. And we've been waiting for the Dragon Girl character, announced for mid-2023, for over a year now.

[Kolljak]

The lack of transparency and or information leaves the community they built very concerned. they usually do news updates once every 2 months but they are late by a week so far.

[ᎤᏬᎥᏋᏖᏁᏋᏕᏕ]

Originally posted by HRTMT STFN:

Then ask the developers how many updates they have been made since the Steam release in early 2022. I can tell you. In 2 years they managed to bring 1 new character, the mermaid, into the game. And we've been waiting for the Dragon Girl character, announced for mid-2023, for over a year now.

Originally posted by Kolljak:

The lack of transparency and or information leaves the community they built very concerned. they usually do news updates once every 2 months but they are late by a week so far.

When this is the case, what you need to do is simple, delete the game from your life and forget about it.

[Jouchebag]

Originally posted by TrrrRampart:

Originally posted by HRTMT STFN:

Then ask the developers how many updates they have been made since the Steam release in early 2022. I can tell you. In 2 years they managed to bring 1 new character, the mermaid, into the game. And we've been waiting for the Dragon Girl character, announced for mid-2023, for over a year now.

Originally posted by Kolljak:

The lack of transparency and or information leaves the community they built very concerned. they usually do news updates once every 2 months but they are late by a week so far.

When this is the case, what you need to do is simple, delete the game from your life and forget about it.

People can have more than one concern in their life. Nobody is saying they are going crazy waiting for an update. To pop your head in once every few months and be frustrated that there's still no update is normal when you're watching a game in Early Access/Beta.

[SGT Sagara]

Originally posted by TrrrRampart:

When this is the case, what you need to do is simple, delete the game from your life and forget about it.

This is your very personal way of reacting, based on your equally very personal way of thinking.

I paid for the product to have both the dragon girl and the android girl.

The developer almost no longer updates customers who purchased the game on Steam through the typical Steam channels and releases "small" news on the development (increasingly inconsistent and unsatisfactory) only on its Patreon platform (paid). I would also like to point out that fewer and fewer users are registered and paying for the Patreon of these devs.

[[HRTMT] STFN]

Originally posted by TrrrRampart:

When this is the case, what you need to do is simple, delete the game from your life and forget about it.

Just imagine you buy a car, pay full price, but the manufacturer only supplies you one part per year.

[ᎤᏬᎥᏋᏖᏁᏋᏕᏕ]

Originally posted by SGT Sagara:

Originally posted by TrrrRampart:

When this is the case, what you need to do is simple, delete the game from your life and forget about it.

This is your very personal way of reacting, based on your equally very personal way of thinking.

I paid for the product to have both the dragon girl and the android girl.

The developer almost no longer updates customers who purchased the game on Steam through the typical Steam channels and releases "small" news on the development (increasingly inconsistent and unsatisfactory) only on its Patreon platform (paid). I would also like to point out that fewer and fewer users are registered and paying for the Patreon of these devs.

I bought this game years ago for the price of a snack and it had very satisfying content for that price, it's very annoying that developers do this, but it's our mistake to expect something in such situations.

[Jouchebag]

Originally posted by TrrrRampart:

I bought this game years ago for the price of a snack and it had very satisfying content for that price, it's very annoying that developers do this, but it's our mistake to expect something in such situations.

It's our mistake that a game in Early Access, which means "currently in active development", is expected to get actively developed?

It's our mistake for reading what is on the store page and taking words literally?

Why Early Access?
“In the development of the orc massage as a game, we hope to get valuable suggestions from the players. This will allow us to refine the experience while getting feedback.

We feel like we have a very solid foundation and want to build on it.”

Approximately how long will this game be in Early Access?
“We anticipate remaining in Early Access for a minimum of 12 months for version 1.0. There is additional content planned after our 1.0 release and we will continue to support the game afterwards.”

It's been years.

How is the full version planned to differ from the Early Access version?
“In Early Access we plan on adding more massage styles, characters and adult content.”

It's been one added character.

What is the current state of the Early Access version?
“Some of the characters will be released in Early Access .
Each character will have a number of massage poses and a number of cutscenes.”

God help us all if they plan to continue development after Early Access. We might see them call this complete by 2032.

Will the game be priced differently during and after Early Access?
“We will increase the price as more content is added.”

This is one of those foreshadowing things they do so they can justify inflating the price later and works like a scare tactic so people jump at it thinking they are getting a deal now (while the game is incomplete). It also works as a sneaky fallback so they can say "Yeah, here's 1.0 all halfassed and incomplete, but at least we didn't raise the price."

How are you planning on involving the Community in your development process?
“We plan to interact and collect feedback from our players in the community to
We plan to interact with players in the community and collect feedback to understand what they think about the game and make adjustments to the content.”

You can't involve community in development when you update once a year. Thousands of suggestions have come and gone. Thousands of people's interest has waxed and waned. This is just meaningless happyflufftalk.

[ᎤᏬᎥᏋᏖᏁᏋᏕᏕ]

Originally posted by Jouchebag:

Originally posted by TrrrRampart:

I bought this game years ago for the price of a snack and it had very satisfying content for that price, it's very annoying that developers do this, but it's our mistake to expect something in such situations.

It's our mistake that a game in Early Access, which means "currently in active development", is expected to get actively developed?

It's our mistaking for reading what is on the store page and taking words literally?

Why Early Access?
“In the development of the orc massage as a game, we hope to get valuable suggestions from the players. This will allow us to refine the experience while getting feedback.

We feel like we have a very solid foundation and want to build on it.”

Approximately how long will this game be in Early Access?
“We anticipate remaining in Early Access for a minimum of 12 months for version 1.0. There is additional content planned after our 1.0 release and we will continue to support the game afterwards.”

It's been years.

How is the full version planned to differ from the Early Access version?
“In Early Access we plan on adding more massage styles, characters and adult content.”

It's been one added character.

What is the current state of the Early Access version?
“Some of the characters will be released in Early Access .
Each character will have a number of massage poses and a number of cutscenes.”

God help us all if they plan to continue development after Early Access. We might see them call this complete by 2032.

Will the game be priced differently during and after Early Access?
“We will increase the price as more content is added.”

This is one of those foreshadowing things they do so they can justify inflating the price later and works like a scare tactic so people jump at it thinking they are getting a deal now (while the game is incomplete). It also works as a sneaky fallback so they can say "Yeah, here's 1.0 all halfassed and incomplete, but at least we didn't raise the price."

How are you planning on involving the Community in your development process?
“We plan to interact and collect feedback from our players in the community to
We plan to interact with players in the community and collect feedback to understand what they think about the game and make adjustments to the content.”

You can't involve community in development when you update once a year. Thousands of suggestions have come and gone. Thousands of people's interest has waxed and waned. This is just meaningless happyflufftalk.

In such games such situations can happen, you need to be able to foresee it and if it happens, instead of getting angry, just ♥♥♥♥ it. Of course, if everyone did this, the developers would stop updating the game, but there is nothing else to do against a pointless wait.

[Jouchebag]

Originally posted by TrrrRampart:

In such games such situations can happen, you need to be able to foresee it and if it happens, instead of getting angry, just ♥♥♥♥ it. Of course, if everyone did this, the developers would stop updating the game, but there is nothing else to do against a pointless wait.

While some people clearly have too much emotional investment in the game and it's terrible update schedule, I think most of us are just disappointed--not angry.

You can't really foresee shady Early Access abandonware. Some games have done amazing things with their time in EA but most have failed to reach the goals they set out for themselves. The only option is to just never, ever purchase an Early Access title. It is a gamble (that we took voluntarily) with the earnest hope that a developer follows through with their promises.

Early Access intentionally keeps people on the hook. It would be less divisive at this point to just push out 1.0 and say they're sorry they couldn't achieve what they wanted in a reasonable time and let people off that hook.

[ᎤᏬᎥᏋᏖᏁᏋᏕᏕ]

Originally posted by Jouchebag:

Originally posted by TrrrRampart:

In such games such situations can happen, you need to be able to foresee it and if it happens, instead of getting angry, just ♥♥♥♥ it. Of course, if everyone did this, the developers would stop updating the game, but there is nothing else to do against a pointless wait.

While some people clearly have too much emotional investment in the game and it's terrible update schedule, I think most of us are just disappointed--not angry.

You can't really foresee shady Early Access abandonware. Some games have done amazing things with their time in EA but most have failed to reach the goals they set out for themselves. The only option is to just never, ever purchase an Early Access title. It is a gamble (that we took voluntarily) with the earnest hope that a developer follows through with their promises.

Early Access intentionally keeps people on the hook. It would be less divisive at this point to just push out 1.0 and say they're sorry they couldn't achieve what they wanted in a reasonable time and let people off that hook.

big disappointment, it won't change even if the update comes, I hope it comes but it's better to delete this game from memory

[SGT Sagara]

Originally posted by TrrrRampart:

I bought this game years ago for the price of a snack and it had very satisfying content for that price, it's very annoying that developers do this, but it's our mistake to expect something in such situations.

In such games such situations can happen, you need to be able to foresee it and if it happens, instead of getting angry, just ♥♥♥♥ it. Of course, if everyone did this, the developers would stop updating the game, but there is nothing else to do against a pointless wait.

big disappointment, it won't change even if the update comes, I hope it comes but it's better to delete this game from memory.

I honestly believe you are seriously confusing your very personal ideas with reality. There are no absolutely right ways to deal with this situation and frankly your way of expressing yourself is tiring.

We are consumers on a digital product platform it is our right to express concerns about our purchases and ask questions or be critical of the developer.

Do you want to forget this whole thing? Very good, you are free to do so... stop instructing others on what to do and think about this matter and disappear. You are free to forget about this game and I am free to criticize the developer and ask about the update of the product that I regularly purchased as a consumer.

Now if you want to forget the matter... and you think it's strange to talk about the game, its updates and the developer in general: simply leave.

[ᎤᏬᎥᏋᏖᏁᏋᏕᏕ]

Originally posted by SGT Sagara:

Originally posted by TrrrRampart:

I bought this game years ago for the price of a snack and it had very satisfying content for that price, it's very annoying that developers do this, but it's our mistake to expect something in such situations.

In such games such situations can happen, you need to be able to foresee it and if it happens, instead of getting angry, just ♥♥♥♥ it. Of course, if everyone did this, the developers would stop updating the game, but there is nothing else to do against a pointless wait.

big disappointment, it won't change even if the update comes, I hope it comes but it's better to delete this game from memory.

I honestly believe you are seriously confusing your very personal ideas with reality. There are no absolutely right ways to deal with this situation and frankly your way of expressing yourself is tiring.

We are consumers on a digital product platform it is our right to express concerns about our purchases and ask questions or be critical of the developer.

Do you want to forget this whole thing? Very good, you are free to do so... stop instructing others on what to do and think about this matter and disappear. You are free to forget about this game and I am free to criticize the developer and ask about the update of the product that I regularly purchased as a consumer.

Now if you want to forget the matter... and you think it's strange to talk about the game, its updates and the developer in general: simply leave.

You are looking at the issue from the wrong perspective, we are not discussing our rights and freedoms here

[SGT Sagara]

Originally posted by TrrrRampart:

You are looking at the issue from the wrong perspective, we are not discussing our rights and freedoms here

Originally posted by TrrrRampart:

Why are you so obsessed with the update? ... Wtf? Get rid of this paradox addiction, calm down a bit, forget about massages and go to a real massage parlor

Yeah... tell us more...

[[HRTMT] STFN]

Originally posted by TrrrRampart:

You are looking at the issue from the wrong perspective, we are not discussing our rights and freedoms here

My point of view is: I paid for this game, so I have the right to expect content updates or at least information on the current development status.