one of the osts

[Jacket]

as an arabic muslim guy I noticed that one of the osts has the first words of islamic prayers in it which kinda bothers me I hope it can get removed

[HAPY HAPY HAPY]

why?

[Jacket]

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why?

I dont know how to explain it that much but the first words of the prayers are meant for calling muslims for prayers and using it like a song might be a problem for us

[Greb]

Good luck, lol.

You'd have more chance requesting an additional feature that let you change what music is played when in close proximity to a tape with a simple drag and drop file into a folder somewhere, rather than wanting something gone specifically because you dislike it.

Mind you, people didn't like Threat Echoes so they added an option to disable those, so perhaps if you campaign hard enough they'll add an option to disable tape proximity music, which might suit your needs. Doubt they'll strip down pieces of the music just for a single persons distaste though.

Still, I'm fairly certain this is a troll or bait thread (considering you don't seem to own the game) - but I can't imagine anyone, even those who get offended by ice cream logos, being annoyed by this. It's hardly a targeted attack - more like a compliment or sign of respect for your culture. Chill.

[Jacket]

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Good luck, lol.

You'd have more chance requesting an additional feature that let you change what music is played when in close proximity to a tape with a simple drag and drop file into a folder somewhere, rather than wanting something gone specifically because you dislike it.

Mind you, people didn't like Threat Echoes so they added an option to disable those, so perhaps if you campaign hard enough they'll add an option to disable tape proximity music, which might suit your needs. Doubt they'll strip down pieces of the music just for a single persons distaste though.

Still, I'm fairly certain this is a troll or bait thread (considering you don't seem to own the game) - but I can't imagine anyone, even those who get offended by ice cream logos, being annoyed by this. It's hardly a targeted attack - more like a compliment or sign of respect for your culture. Chill.

I am planning to buy the game a friend showed it to me and I got super intersted in it

[V.0ID]

I can understand where the original poster is coming from. A similar incident happened with LittleBigPlanet, which features the song Tapha Niang performed by Toumani Diabate's Symmetric Orchestra. It had to be recalled and patched with an instrumental version since some of the lyrics in the song reference the Koran, and some find the combination of Koranic text and music offensive. However, the Koran does not explicitly forbid this and there is debate regarding issues arising from this sort of occurrence.

https://abcnews.go.com/Technology/PCWorld/story?id=6070285

If the vocals in the Receiver 2 soundtrack are bothersome, one can opt to only listen to the bonus tracks, which are instrumental versions of the songs used in the game. Hard censorship might just make the soundtrack all the lesser for it.

The tracks in the video game are watered-down versions of the original soundtrack but is adapted to be dynamically mixed depending on the player's proximity to a cassette tape and the degree of danger the player is in. For the time being, there's no easy way to disable the vocals mixed into the background music, but one can lower the music volume to 0% and just get used to playing without the songs and with no hints of how close a cassette tape is.

The Receiver 2 soundtrack is partially influenced by Islamic calls to prayer, and the lyrics also suggests so.

Mood Board Playlist:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLxpsSCg7qVLhHCpuosn-l_fgu8GRm1D91

Anton's comment with soundtrack lyrics:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XM8rIu_dPio&lc=UgwC4KVUfLOthWXAOs94AaABAg

The track entitled "Fire" has vocals that closely resemble this call to prayer (at least in melody and cadence), which is also included in Anton's mood board playlist for Receiver 2.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fe8qRj12OhY&list=PLxpsSCg7qVLhHCpuosn-l_fgu8GRm1D91&index=8

If one only focuses on the fact that the lyrics may closely resemble if not use actual Islamic speech or Koranic text and takes offense to it, one may lose sight of the lyrics' connection to the game's lore.

This is what I understand from playing the game.

The Receivers are a group of people who have prepared for the Mindkill, an attempted destruction of mankind, and perhaps all of Reality A (life, existence, the world as we know it), by the Threat, a force that essentially embodies everything "wrong" with humanity and its imperfections, including negativity, mental sickness, and self-destructive behaviors like suicide. Despite the Threat's efforts to kill off all survivors of the Mindkill, the Dreaming, through direct attacks with Killdrones (the robotic weapons sent by the Threat to kill Receivers on sight) or indirectly by interfering with supplies and sabotaging equipment in the post-Mindkill environment, there is a group or entity trying to help Receivers overcome the Threat in Reality B (the setting of the game, a crude world of shadows from Reality A) and Reality C (Your computer? The game? You control someone in Reality B in your stead, if not a projection of yourself.) called the Benefactor(s). The Benefactor(s) could be God or Allah, a group of people like the Receivers who have found the strength to be more than human and perceive Reality more completely, maybe all the above, or perhaps something else entirely. The Benefactor(s) and Receivers who have advanced Mindtechs (mental tools that can be used to become a better person and even weaponized to defend against the Threat) provide needed resources to the player and helpful messages contained in cassette tapes and floppy disks. Some Receivers hear the voice of a mystic singing as they draw near a cassette tape, which contain messages needed to Awaken and return to Reality A from Reality B. Other Receivers have been killed by the Threat numerous times (like "Mongoose" Maggie and Mitch) without dying, albeit with dulled or clouded memories each time they re-manifest in Reality B.

Regardless of who the Benefactor(s) is/are, this suggests the idea that there are higher powers seeking to guide, nurture, and protect humanity, steering it away from the pitfalls the Threat presents. Some of the lyrics from "Fire" and other tracks allude or otherwise directly call this out. Thus, the meaning of the vocals helps tie the soundtrack to the game.

Personally, I think this adds a nice touch, despite any unintentional offense the lyrics creates. If one still finds it distasteful, they can just mute the in-game music and avoid the tracks with lyrics on the OST.

[Scary Busey]

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Escrito originalmente por HAPY HAPY HAPY:

why?

I dont know how to explain it that much but the first words of the prayers are meant for calling muslims for prayers and using it like a song might be a problem for us

The world doesn't revolve around you.

[Jacket]

Escrito originalmente por TwilightAngel497:

I can understand where the original poster is coming from. A similar incident happened with LittleBigPlanet, which features the song Tapha Niang performed by Toumani Diabate's Symmetric Orchestra. It had to be recalled and patched with an instrumental version since some of the lyrics in the song reference the Koran, and some find the combination of Koranic text and music offensive. However, the Koran does not explicitly forbid this and there is debate regarding issues arising from this sort of occurrence.

https://abcnews.go.com/Technology/PCWorld/story?id=6070285

If the vocals in the Receiver 2 soundtrack are bothersome, one can opt to only listen to the bonus tracks, which are instrumental versions of the songs used in the game. Hard censorship might just make the soundtrack all the lesser for it.

The tracks in the video game are watered-down versions of the original soundtrack but is adapted to be dynamically mixed depending on the player's proximity to a cassette tape and the degree of danger the player is in. For the time being, there's no easy way to disable the vocals mixed into the background music, but one can lower the music volume to 0% and just get used to playing without the songs and with no hints of how close a cassette tape is.

The Receiver 2 soundtrack is partially influenced by Islamic calls to prayer, and the lyrics also suggests so.

Mood Board Playlist:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLxpsSCg7qVLhHCpuosn-l_fgu8GRm1D91

Anton's comment with soundtrack lyrics:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XM8rIu_dPio&lc=UgwC4KVUfLOthWXAOs94AaABAg

The track entitled "Fire" has vocals that closely resemble this call to prayer (at least in melody and cadence), which is also included in Anton's mood board playlist for Receiver 2.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fe8qRj12OhY&list=PLxpsSCg7qVLhHCpuosn-l_fgu8GRm1D91&index=8

If one only focuses on the fact that the lyrics may closely resemble if not use actual Islamic speech or Koranic text and takes offense to it, one may lose sight of the lyrics' connection to the game's lore.

This is what I understand from playing the game.

The Receivers are a group of people who have prepared for the Mindkill, an attempted destruction of mankind, and perhaps all of Reality A (life, existence, the world as we know it), by the Threat, a force that essentially embodies everything "wrong" with humanity and its imperfections, including negativity, mental sickness, and self-destructive behaviors like suicide. Despite the Threat's efforts to kill off all survivors of the Mindkill, the Dreaming, through direct attacks with Killdrones (the robotic weapons sent by the Threat to kill Receivers on sight) or indirectly by interfering with supplies and sabotaging equipment in the post-Mindkill environment, there is a group or entity trying to help Receivers overcome the Threat in Reality B (the setting of the game, a crude world of shadows from Reality A) and Reality C (Your computer? The game? You control someone in Reality B in your stead, if not a projection of yourself.) called the Benefactor(s). The Benefactor(s) could be God or Allah, a group of people like the Receivers who have found the strength to be more than human and perceive Reality more completely, maybe all the above, or perhaps something else entirely. The Benefactor(s) and Receivers who have advanced Mindtechs (mental tools that can be used to become a better person and even weaponized to defend against the Threat) provide needed resources to the player and helpful messages contained in cassette tapes and floppy disks. Some Receivers hear the voice of a mystic singing as they draw near a cassette tape, which contain messages needed to Awaken and return to Reality A from Reality B. Other Receivers have been killed by the Threat numerous times (like "Mongoose" Maggie and Mitch) without dying, albeit with dulled or clouded memories each time they re-manifest in Reality B.

Regardless of who the Benefactor(s) is/are, this suggests the idea that there are higher powers seeking to guide, nurture, and protect humanity, steering it away from the pitfalls the Threat presents. Some of the lyrics from "Fire" and other tracks allude or otherwise directly call this out. Thus, the meaning of the vocals helps tie the soundtrack to the game.

Personally, I think this adds a nice touch, despite any unintentional offense the lyrics creates. If one still finds it distasteful, they can just mute the in-game music and avoid the tracks with lyrics on the OST.

thanks I might have to look around a bit I wont like I kinda liked it but for some odd reason it just tignels my feeling

[V.0ID]

Here's another neat example. The song "The Threat" is used on the Sleepwalker rank of the video game. The level features lightning, thunder, and the sound of rain, and the lyrics (translated to English below) actually relate to this.


Blessed is the moment
The flash of light
The roar of thunder
Smite thine enemy down

[Bluehawk]

The singer, Uyanga Bold, is a Buddhist (?) Mongolian living in California, for what it's worth.

[Anton]

So, I'll just chime in a little here... The vocal parts were not meant to have any lyrics other than what I wrote, but some additional phrases from the Qur'an were recorded. I really liked that take, and so used them. However, since then I decided to remove them from the game, and in an upcoming update the version with those verses has been replaced with an alternate take, so you will no longer hear them in game.

[V.0ID]

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So, I'll just chime in a little here... The vocal parts were not meant to have any lyrics other than what I wrote, but some additional phrases from the Qur'an were recorded. I really liked that take, and so used them. However, since then I decided to remove them from the game, and in an upcoming update the version with those verses has been replaced with an alternate take, so you will no longer hear them in game.

That's pretty neat of you to do! When those changes roll out, I wonder if I will be able to tell the differences when I listen. Is there any chance the alternate versions will be released as a DLC soundtrack or appended to the existing OST as bonus tracks?

[Anton]

The alternate take was recorded at the same time as the one we used before, so, it may be difficult to tell the difference in game. It is unlikely that the alternate take will be released on its own though, as it doesn't have the same type of build, so doesn't really flow with the soundtrack version. (The soundtrack release has additional material recorded in response to the first performance) I'll consider it if people really notice the change, and if I get enough requests for it. Until then, I have other new music I need to focus on.

[Puffy Glazed Donut]

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I dont know how to explain it that much but the first words of the prayers are meant for calling muslims for prayers and using it like a song might be a problem for us

The world doesn't revolve around you.

Ah, yes. Because being offended by something that is religious is all about yourself. Honestly though, leave, please.

[Puffy Glazed Donut]

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I dont know how to explain it that much but the first words of the prayers are meant for calling muslims for prayers and using it like a song might be a problem for us

The world doesn't revolve around you.

I wouldn't be surprised if you were part of "the Threat".

[Autious]

If you ever do end up writing up your reflections on your feelings i would be interested in hearing them. I respect them and find it interesting.

Considering recent history it's not odd to me that there are multiple points of friction of cultural experience for someone who lives with one foot in western anglo media and another in arabic culture, and understanding this experience better is important to me personally.