Pulled into Rift while Adam and HIVE discuss the safety of using Spatial Bypass, and hardcoded key

[Maktaka]

As title says. My first time using a spatial bypass, after having placed several spatial bypass devices already, Adam and HIVE discuss the safety of using the device. Behind me, an Rift had opened and pulled me in. Really not all that safe then. Rifts should not open during the first use of the spatial bypass when this conversation plays, it kind of undercuts the whole point of the "this is safe travel" conversation going on.

Also, using a Spatial Bypass is hardcoded to F. The map UI will show whatever key you have assigned to the Use command, but you have to press F to fast travel, contrary to the displayed key.

[Notoshy]

Pssst.... the first Rift-Interaction is Story-bound ;) Its supposed to suck you in.

[rockfish_andi]

As Notoshy has pointed out, the "pulled into rift" event is a story-bound event that always occurs when getting close to the Spatial Bypass in front of homebase (preventing docking at homebase) at the beginning of the "Paving The Way" main mission.

As for the "hard-coded" button - it's not hard-coded. The "interact" action (Keybinding section Space/Actions) is used when interacting with the Spatial Bypass in space and the "OK" action (Keybinding section "Menus/Actions" ) is used when choosing the location to jump to in the map screen. You likely only changed "interact" from F to something else but left "OK" at F. I just tested this with "interact" bound to "Ä" and "OK" to "Ü" and I could open the bypass with "Ä" and then press "Ü" to choose the jump target on the map (and both keys displayed correctly)

[Maktaka]

If the first rift is automatic, then perhaps the dialog about the safety of rift travel should be suppressed when the first time rift traveling is done back to home base. Otherwise the conversation seems rather absurd when Adam and HIVE obliviously discuss the apparent safety of rift travel even as they get sucked into a wormhole we then learn is caused by the deployment of the rift devices.

Regarding the keybind issue, under the Menu/Action keybind I have OK set to Space/F. Interact is set to just Space. Using Space to interact with the spatial bypass unit from the ship works fine, but using Space to set the target destination of travel in the menu that pops up doesn't work, despite that being the displayed keybind. Only F works in the menu to initiate fast travel.

[rockfish_andi]

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If the first rift is automatic, then perhaps the dialog about the safety of rift travel should be suppressed when the first time rift traveling is done back to home base. Otherwise the conversation seems rather absurd when Adam and HIVE obliviously discuss the apparent safety of rift travel even as they get sucked into a wormhole we then learn is caused by the deployment of the rift devices.

It's only in the case that you are at the start of "Paving the Way" and using a spatial bypass to return to homebase at this very moment. It's a very rare edge case, we'll see if we can go the extra-mile and prevent playing of the dialogue in that case, but it's probably not worth the effort for such a rare occurence.

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Regarding the keybind issue, under the Menu/Action keybind I have OK set to Space/F. Interact is set to just Space. Using Space to interact with the spatial bypass unit from the ship works fine, but using Space to set the target destination of travel in the menu that pops up doesn't work, despite that being the displayed keybind. Only F works in the menu to initiate fast travel.

I see - I believe that this is a keybinding conflict then - SPACE is used as a modifier for "info boxes" to scroll with mouse wheel while SPACE is pressed. Because the target location on map is hovered the info box will show and when pressing SPACE the input whill be consumed as "scroll modifier" and thus not work for the "OK" action anymore

[Notoshy]

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If the first rift is automatic, then perhaps the dialog about the safety of rift travel should be suppressed when the first time rift traveling is done back to home base. Otherwise the conversation seems rather absurd when Adam and HIVE obliviously discuss the apparent safety of rift travel even as they get sucked into a wormhole we then learn is caused by the deployment of the rift devices.

I would call this Situation "Peak Comedy" XD
Maybe the Devs could add a little bonus text to the Conversation, if this edge case happens. HIVE's dry humor and "... oh great, i was RIGHT. We will die." or something like this^^

[Credomane]

Yeah...This really needs tweaked/fixed. Well, the dialog at least needs fixed as it indicated all went well and *is* well all while unable to move and getting sucked into the rift.

Calling this an edge case seems strange to me because I created my first "rift gate" thing in the nebula to the home base and took it after rescuing the emissary. Why? because it seemed like the proper and almost intended time to start making the fast travel points. Only to get sucked into the rift the moment I came out back at base. I wasted 40 minutes try to fight my way through before realizing there were FOUR parts and I was only at the 1/2 way point to this annoying thing. said screw this reloaded a save before I ever took the fast travel deciding that crap was the complete opposite of fast. Mainly because I'm level 18 with level 18 gear facing off against level 21 and 22 adversaries.

Now I come across this post more-or-less saying that this is actually a forced rift for the story and it wasn't because I took the fast-travel home? Seriously!? Ugh. I might as well abort my slow trek back the normal way and reload the auto save...assuming it hasn't been overridden yet.

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Well isn't THAT swell. My rift auto save was there but it was for the very START of the rift. Instead of being ready to start the third part when I got annoyed an quit I'm instead at the very beginning. Only one experience with rifts and they are definitely the one and only fault I have with this game. I was loving it all the way up to this point.

[Notoshy]

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Well isn't THAT swell. My rift auto save was there but it was for the very START of the rift. Instead of being ready to start the third part when I got annoyed an quit I'm instead at the very beginning. Only one experience with rifts and they are definitely the one and only fault I have with this game. I was loving it all the way up to this point.

Thats how the auto-save works in this Game. Whenever you access a new Area, the Game saves. This counts for accessing a Rift too.
You should have multiple auto-saves and one that is dated before you started the Rift.