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Xivanon Aug 11, 2022 @ 9:10am
Swapping ships in homebase including equipment
Just asking in case I overlook something.

So to swap a ship at homebase including the equipment and items in the inventory I have to:
1) Unequip all the equipment
2) move everything from inventory (ship) to storage (station)
3) swap the ship
4) reequip everything from storage and move the items back

Or is there a way to swap a ship in homebase like I can after buying?
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Ubik Valis Aug 11, 2022 @ 9:29am 
Yep, I remember posting about this as well the other day.

Hopefully the devs can make an "Equip and launch" button, or a "Move equipment" button next to the "Launch" one.
pUNK -in- drUBLIC Aug 11, 2022 @ 12:22pm 
The "only" issue I see about this "hot swap" is that ships don't have the same cargo/device/weapon space... So some things might get put aside if automated...

BUT !!! I believe a quick menu to choose what you want to transfer pronto onto the next ship shouldn't be too hard to create ;)
Ubik Valis Aug 11, 2022 @ 1:04pm 
Originally posted by LOVE中国人-HATE中国共产:
The "only" issue I see about this "hot swap" is that ships don't have the same cargo/device/weapon space... So some things might get put aside if automated...

BUT !!! I believe a quick menu to choose what you want to transfer pronto onto the next ship shouldn't be too hard to create ;)

When you do it via the shop, it automatically fills all weapon slots with the weapons you had previously, if you are switching to a ship with less weapon slots, the rest go into your inventory, so nothing is lost or ruined.

Surely, they could make a similar function for swapping ships in your hangar?
LarvaLounge Aug 11, 2022 @ 2:23pm 
Agreed. It's already in the game (when buying a new ship). Seems like a no-brainer to add it to the Hangar at the Home Base.
Xivanon Aug 11, 2022 @ 3:27pm 
Originally posted by Ubik Valis:
When you do it via the shop, it automatically fills all weapon slots with the weapons you had previously, if you are switching to a ship with less weapon slots, the rest go into your inventory, so nothing is lost or ruined.

Surely, they could make a similar function for swapping ships in your hangar?

That is exactly what I'd like to have.
Pappy Aug 11, 2022 @ 5:19pm 
I'm not going to disagree that this would be a nice feature to have, but how often are you really doing this and just how hard is it? You don't have to do like the OP said and unequip them to your cargo then move them to the hangar, swap ships and then move them to the cargo and then move them back into the slot. That's the wrong way to do it. Right click on an item on your ship and it's moved to the hangar. Swap ships and hit R to equip on the new ship. I just tried this and it took like 10 to 15 seconds to completely swap my gear from 1 ship to another.

And what about when the ship you are moving to is not clean? If you pick a ship that already has equipment on it, what happens then, that item doesn't get moved? The items swap ships? What about if the ship you move to has 1 less weapon slot, which weapon shouldn't be moved to the new ship? What if it has 1 more, you have an empty weapon slot? So on and so forth. There's a lot of exceptions for having the game do this for you and I know it already sort of does it when you buy a new ship, but at least then there's not the issue of things already being on that ship.

All I'm saying this is pretty low priority for me. I don't mind taking the 15 seconds it takes for me to do it manually once in a blue moon and be certain that it worked exactly like I expected. Takes me a LOT longer just to fly back to my base to do the swap. How much time is it really saving you?
Last edited by Pappy; Aug 11, 2022 @ 7:30pm
Ubik Valis Aug 11, 2022 @ 6:24pm 
Originally posted by Pappy:
I'm not going to disagree that this would be a nice feature to have, but how often are you really doing this and just how hard is it? You don't have to do like the OP said and unequip them to your cargo then move them to the hangar, swap ships and then move them to the hangar and then move them back into the slot. That's the wrong way to do it. Right click on an item on your ship and it's moved to the hangar. Swap ships and hit R to equip on the new ship. I just tried this and it took like 10 to 15 seconds to completely swap my gear from 1 ship to another.

And what about when the ship you are moving to is not clean? If you pick a ship that already has equipment on it, what happens then, that item doesn't get moved? The items swap ships? What about if the ship you move to has 1 less weapon slot, which weapon shouldn't be moved to the new ship? What if it has 1 more, you have an empty weapon slot? So on and so forth. There's a lot of exceptions for having the game do this for you and I know it already sort of does it when you buy a new ship, but at least then there's not the issue of things already being on that ship.

All I'm saying this is pretty low priority for me. I don't mind taking the 15 seconds it takes for me to do it manually once in a blue moon and be certain that it worked exactly like I expected. Takes me a LOT longer just to fly back to my base to do the swap. How much time is it really saving you?

Well. it is a neat little QoL, so no big deal if it can't be prioritized or whatever.

That being said, the code/mechanics for it is already there, so it's not like we're asking RockFish to re-invent the wheel. Quite the contrary, we're saying:

"Hey RockFish, that wheel you've already invented, it has a really cool part you can use somewhere else, thereby making your game that bit better and more convenient."

And now I'm tossing a love-grenade at you and RockFish, that way you will do my bidding for atleast 1 turn. :lovegrenade::severedhand::dos2skull:
Uyu  [developer] Aug 11, 2022 @ 11:41pm 
Thanks for the love-grenade, Ubik Valis. To go into your analogy, this would be like us taking said "already invented" carriage wheel (ship shop code), slamming it on an F1 race car, and sending it for a 300 km/h lap. This is not how it works. It's never easy to reuse code for a different system with many edge cases as Pappy pointed out.
To put it short. We've heard you, but it's low priority right now.
Last edited by Uyu; Aug 11, 2022 @ 11:41pm
Ubik Valis Aug 12, 2022 @ 12:37am 
Originally posted by Uyu:
Thanks for the love-grenade, Ubik Valis. To go into your analogy, this would be like us taking said "already invented" carriage wheel (ship shop code), slamming it on an F1 race car, and sending it for a 300 km/h lap. This is not how it works. It's never easy to reuse code for a different system with many edge cases as Pappy pointed out.
To put it short. We've heard you, but it's low priority right now.

But I thought you Germans had several F1 world champions, so what's the problem? Hehe :HappyMoonman:

Seriously though, thank you for the reply, have some more love grenades for breakfast with your sauerkraut:

:lovegrenade::lovegrenade::lovegrenade::lovegrenade::lovegrenade::lovegrenade::lovegrenade::lovegrenade::lovegrenade::lovegrenade::lovegrenade::lovegrenade::lovegrenade:
Xivanon Aug 12, 2022 @ 2:42am 
Originally posted by Pappy:
And what about when the ship you are moving to is not clean? If you pick a ship that already has equipment on it, what happens then, that item doesn't get moved? The items swap ships? What about if the ship you move to has 1 less weapon slot, which weapon shouldn't be moved to the new ship? What if it has 1 more, you have an empty weapon slot? So on and so forth. There's a lot of exceptions for having the game do this for you and I know it already sort of does it when you buy a new ship, but at least then there's not the issue of things already being on that ship.

Honestly, the mechanics for all those points are already in the game, or should be.

If you buy a new ship, the equipment and inventory gets swapped to the new ship. Every equipment, that, doesn't fit because of missing slots gets put into the inventory. So in case there is already a weapon in a slot it will not be replaced but instead the swappen weapon will be put into the inventory (one way to do it).

So what happens if the inventory gets full? That can happen right now, when you buy a ship with less space. Maybe it will be send to the storage? Which items and what happens when the storage is full? That as well should be solved right now.

So the only new question left to answer is, whether already equipped items get replaced or not.
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Date Posted: Aug 11, 2022 @ 9:10am
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