Are mining resources pre-decided (trying to get Rares)?

[VersataMeridian]

I save scummed and tried to mine Baromite from the same node 10-15 times. but I never got a Pure Baromite even once. In the entire system I had over 10+ nodes and got a Pure baromite from only 1. I have 300+ of the regular (and useless IMO) Baromite and really need the Rare ones.

Is the outcome of the nodes predecided in the game? or when you first enter the system?
ie a node will never release a PURE no matter how many times you reload a game but another node will?

[Suzaku]

Not sure if things are predetermined or not, but using a beam laser with the mining catalyst installed made gathering any rare resource a breeze. Literally anytime I needed something rare, it took less than 5 minutes to get it.

[VersataMeridian]

So I scummed a PURE Node (a node where I got a PURE) - and reloaded the game 5-6 times and got the exact same # of PURE nodes.
So there's no RNG - all nodes seem to be prebaked per map!

Kind of sucks really. Wish there was some "refine" option with heavy credit cost to convert all this useless regular minerals to PURE version.
Something like paying 10k credits to produce 10 PURE by consuming 100 regulars just so you dont create thousands of PURE but at the same time have a way to use up the regular ones that are just accumulating for no reason

[Gamerzilla]

I tried save scum testing using a flak to mine nodes with no special mining perks, then reloading and using a +25% all mining laser with +45% chance to get rare materials. I got the same rewards in all cases on a map with over 10 nodes. Why is there even lasers with bonuses if they basically do the same thing but slower? :(

[VersataMeridian]

yup - I feel the game seriously needs a refinery concept. I have over 500 glacit and 2 PUREs. Same for Insidium. There is no art to mining. needs lot of love...

[aByZMal]

The key is using the mining catalyst. It greatly increases your chances of getting pure/flawless resources from nodes.

I was in the process of doing a quantitative investigation into it comparing a beam laser with a flak but got burnt out after mining 600 nodes. I'll let you know if I finish doing it. For now its time for some Jedi Survivor :D

[Kosevich]

Lvl 30 starforged annihilator (variation of mining laser) + installed mining catalyst gives you something about 15 resources from one deposit. Rare ore varies from 2 to 8 (5 average).

[Rithrin]

From what I've seen in other threads, the game uses a preset seed, so for example if you save, craft 5 items in a row, load, and craft 5 items in a row again, each item will be the same.

It is also the same with loot - if you open a secure container, then die, and come back from autosave, that container will have the exact same loot regardless of whether you loot it immediately or after looting other containers.

I'm not sure how it works with the mineral nodes, but I have a feeling if you got the exact same resources after loading a save, the preset seed is why.

[Khal'cynee]

laser with mining catalyst
for best result ever try to find a red starforged one

[[Slayer]]

The whole universe is pre-determined.

[Tiniturtle]

well if u want mining high quality then make a weapon with mining prefix

[Pappy]

You can't save scum the game. As others have mentioned the seed for the random number generator is selected when you start a new game (not load an existing game) and saved when you save the game. If you reload the same seed is used and will therefore generate the exact same random number and give you the exact same result.

Having said that, using a mining catalyst with a laser with enhanced mining properties should still increase your chances as that should be another random chance on top of the random chance for the node itself. If you always get the same results regardless of what you use to mine the node, something isn't working right which has already been reported in the bugs and technical issues sub-forum.

[Kosevich]

Originally posted by Rithrin:

From what I've seen in other threads, the game uses a preset seed, so for example if you save, craft 5 items in a row, load, and craft 5 items in a row again, each item will be the same.

Little OFF topic observation. If you create other item first it will change the order of crafted items and can drastically save your components to find needed crafted bonuses.

[Venthus]

Originally posted by Rithrin:

From what I've seen in other threads, the game uses a preset seed, so for example if you save, craft 5 items in a row, load, and craft 5 items in a row again, each item will be the same.

Thank you for saying this. I was really wondering why the modifiers were not changing.

[Alt0153]

flak and mining catalyst ftw

[rasabt]

yeah
the minig laser does pretty much nothing
unlike the catalyst
combined with a flak
and the annyoin as hell to use ressource-map you can get what you need (most of the time) fast enough.