Thrustmaster Joystick not working at all

[Major_Tinz]

I have waited ages for this game to be finished and I am super excited to finally get to play it in a completed state ... but ... it doesn't detect my Thrustmaster Joystick (T.Flight HOTAS x). The joystick works fine with everything else. Is there a workaround out there?

[ChilledMilk]

same

[Mythos]

My thrustmaster 1.600000m works just fine. Did you choose it in the dropdown option under input?

[a.warringa1]

My 160000000 with separate throttle also works fine. Biggest issue is figuring out the button prompts. B2 (which is on the stick), B6 (which is on the throttle), A4, left shoulder button, T2, it seems to give every button a random name.

[Apocalypse]

Originally posted by Major_Tinz:

I have waited ages for this game to be finished and I am super excited to finally get to play it in a completed state ... but ... it doesn't detect my Thrustmaster Joystick (T.Flight HOTAS x). The joystick works fine with everything else. Is there a workaround out there?

That T.Flight HOTAS x is iirc basically a controller, so you might be fine with just using it as such. iirc it's a ps3 / xbox controller (depending on the specific model) that works on pc too.

[Hellstrum]

Same issue here, only bought this because they said it supported HOTAS.....

[a.warringa1]

While my HOTAS worked - controls feeled very sluggish and awkward. I just gave mouse+kb a try and that made everything so much easier. Feels like this game was designed for mouse+kb. Can recommend to give that a try, even when you have a hotas.

[Major_Tinz]

I have been using K&M so far, and I am adapting slowly.

[Rozar]

Really bad system for rebinding joystick stuff

[Rithrin]

Originally posted by Major_Tinz:

I have waited ages for this game to be finished and I am super excited to finally get to play it in a completed state ... but ... it doesn't detect my Thrustmaster Joystick (T.Flight HOTAS x). The joystick works fine with everything else. Is there a workaround out there?

The joystick input detection for DirectInput devices seems a bit spotty. No idea if it's ES2 or Steam causing the issues, but try looking into vJoy, Joystick Gremlin, XOutput, and similar software to config your stick globally as a Xinput device and it should work in pretty much every game. That's how I'm getting my stick setup to work with ES2 - otherwise it doesn't register any inputs.

Originally posted by a.warringa1:

While my HOTAS worked - controls feeled very sluggish and awkward. I just gave mouse+kb a try and that made everything so much easier. Feels like this game was designed for mouse+kb. Can recommend to give that a try, even when you have a hotas.

Try HOSAM setup. You can have the fun and precision in movement of flying with a stick, but WITH the lightning fast target acquisition of a mouse.

[a.warringa1]

Originally posted by Rithrin:

Originally posted by Major_Tinz:

I have waited ages for this game to be finished and I am super excited to finally get to play it in a completed state ... but ... it doesn't detect my Thrustmaster Joystick (T.Flight HOTAS x). The joystick works fine with everything else. Is there a workaround out there?

The joystick input detection for DirectInput devices seems a bit spotty. No idea if it's ES2 or Steam causing the issues, but try looking into vJoy, Joystick Gremlin, XOutput, and similar software to config your stick globally as a Xinput device and it should work in pretty much every game. That's how I'm getting my stick setup to work with ES2 - otherwise it doesn't register any inputs.

Originally posted by a.warringa1:

While my HOTAS worked - controls feeled very sluggish and awkward. I just gave mouse+kb a try and that made everything so much easier. Feels like this game was designed for mouse+kb. Can recommend to give that a try, even when you have a hotas.

Try HOSAM setup. You can have the fun and precision in movement of flying with a stick, but WITH the lightning fast target acquisition of a mouse.

I honestly felt the movement to be more precise with mouse and kb than with my hotas.. it's weird, it just feels sluggish and unnatural somehow. Surprised me since games like Elite and Squadron work perfectly fine with a hotas :-/

[Apocalypse]

Originally posted by Rithrin:

Try HOSAM setup. You can have the fun and precision in movement of flying with a stick, but WITH the lightning fast target acquisition of a mouse.

Yeah Hosam is pretty often a good choice when your guns are not fixed or auto-aiming.

BTW Xinput has the huge disadvantage of only supporting basically what a xbox controller has.
4 axis, 10 buttons, 2 triggers and a 8 directional pad. A lot of sticks have more than just 4 axis alone and some people like to combine their throttle with their stick into one device too.

Anyway OP, good luck with getting your stick to work.

[Rithrin]

Originally posted by a.warringa1:

Originally posted by Rithrin:

The joystick input detection for DirectInput devices seems a bit spotty. No idea if it's ES2 or Steam causing the issues, but try looking into vJoy, Joystick Gremlin, XOutput, and similar software to config your stick globally as a Xinput device and it should work in pretty much every game. That's how I'm getting my stick setup to work with ES2 - otherwise it doesn't register any inputs.




Try HOSAM setup. You can have the fun and precision in movement of flying with a stick, but WITH the lightning fast target acquisition of a mouse.

I honestly felt the movement to be more precise with mouse and kb than with my hotas.. it's weird, it just feels sluggish and unnatural somehow. Surprised me since games like Elite and Squadron work perfectly fine with a hotas :-/

Well, I felt that way when trying to aim using stick, but strafing/hover seems to be fine. Same for rolls, using keyboard controls for rolling resulting in MUCH too rapid a roll for my comfort.

Originally posted by Apocalypse:

Originally posted by Rithrin:

Try HOSAM setup. You can have the fun and precision in movement of flying with a stick, but WITH the lightning fast target acquisition of a mouse.

Yeah Hosam is pretty often a good choice when your guns are not fixed or auto-aiming.

BTW Xinput has the huge disadvantage of only supporting basically what a xbox controller has.
4 axis, 10 buttons, 2 triggers and a 8 directional pad. A lot of sticks have more than just 4 axis alone and some people like to combine their throttle with their stick into one device too.

Anyway OP, good luck with getting your stick to work.

Agree, Xinput has limitations, but I have yet to find a game that detects my DirectInput devices out of the box. Even playing some older games like Descent on a modern engine port, the underlying SDL/SDL2 module only seems to pickup Xinputs! At least some games allow for multiple controller support so you can use two virtual Xinput devices to get more than 4 axis... but I digress.

Hopefully OP finds a control scheme they can enjoy!

[Telmorial]

I'm also having problems getting my Saitek X55 to work. X and Y axis won't even work. Works fine in Star Citizen, so I guess it must be an issue in this game or Steam.

I guess I could play with a mouse/keyboard but it kind of seems a crime not to use a joystick in a space sim.

[Glassjaw]

Have you guys tried going into: Input> Customize Controls> Input Method Override and selecting one of the joystick options in there or the 'auto detect'? Might be worth a shot.

[Telmorial]

I got my Saitek to work by Input> Customize Controls> Input Method Override > Auto Detect. Then I had to manually setup each axis and buttons in the right column.