full newtonian flight model option?

[tsmspace]

I would never look at such a game without utter disdain unless it offered me the option to use full newtonian thrust and rotation. I don't need gravity, or orbital mechanics, but I simply MUSt be able to use my custom controller (vjoy based) option, and it simply MUST offer me the option to fly full newtonian thrust, and full newtonian rotation.

If not , I will be asking for my money back even when I didn't buy it yet!

[Connatic]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/846030/V_Rings_of_Saturn/

[tsmspace]

Originally posted by Connatic:

https://store.steampowered.com/app/846030/V_Rings_of_Saturn/

3d?

[Connatic]

2D

[aY227]

Demo is full version. So check it.

[tsmspace]

I like it so far, but if there was a 3d rings of saturn would be better

[Connatic]

Originally posted by tsmspace:

I like it so far, but if there was a 3d rings of saturn would be better

Of course, but it's still a pretty cool realistic space sim for 2D. Pretty hardcore if you ask me, especially for the price.

[Yes Indeed!]

There is an option in the control settings that is disabled by default, "Toggle Inertial Dampeners." Dampeners default to online, and allow your directional thrusters to compensate your momentum so that controls are arcadey and directional changes are quick. With dampeners offline, the flight model is pseudo-Newtonian. The exceptions to a true Newtonian model are speed caps: your degree of thrust applies a soft speed cap, and your speed will graduate towards the cap (higher cap while boosting, for example).

[tsmspace]

Originally posted by Yes Indeed!:

There is an option in the control settings that is disabled by default, "Toggle Inertial Dampeners." Dampeners default to online, and allow your directional thrusters to compensate your momentum so that controls are arcadey and directional changes are quick. With dampeners offline, the flight model is pseudo-Newtonian. The exceptions to a true Newtonian model are speed caps: your degree of thrust applies a soft speed cap, and your speed will graduate towards the cap (higher cap while boosting, for example).

I did this in the demo,, it was ok but overall I would like more toggles to disable the various assists, caps, and auto-features.

[Johnny Hazard]

This game is not a simulator. It's an arcade 3d space shooter. It's already 5 stars for it to have the "dampeners off" feature.
What you are looking for is Elite Dangerous. Don't know if the oncoming "Starfield" game will have full-newtonian space flight also. I wonder.

[Xenpo]

Originally posted by Johnny Hazard:

This game is not a simulator. It's an arcade 3d space shooter. It's already 5 stars for it to have the "dampeners off" feature.
What you are looking for is Elite Dangerous. Don't know if the oncoming "Starfield" game will have full-newtonian space flight also. I wonder.

Starfield by Bethesda has NO space flight. That's not the type of game it is either.

Elite has it. Elite has always had it.

Folks of your mind got their way and ruined Star Citizen by demanding (and getting their way) implementation of the same.

Please enjoy this for what it is, and do not request this as a feature for this game.

[tsmspace]

Originally posted by Johnny Hazard:

This game is not a simulator. It's an arcade 3d space shooter. It's already 5 stars for it to have the "dampeners off" feature.
What you are looking for is Elite Dangerous. Don't know if the oncoming "Starfield" game will have full-newtonian space flight also. I wonder.

THere's more to know about elite,,, it does NOT have it.

[Johnny Hazard]

Originally posted by tsmspace:

Originally posted by Johnny Hazard:

This game is not a simulator. It's an arcade 3d space shooter. It's already 5 stars for it to have the "dampeners off" feature.
What you are looking for is Elite Dangerous. Don't know if the oncoming "Starfield" game will have full-newtonian space flight also. I wonder.

THere's more to know about elite,,, it does NOT have it.

Then what? Kerbal space program?

[Baker]

Has there ever been a space combat game with full Newtonian space flight physics?
I think Elite Dangerous comes the closest from those that I know about. You can turn off all assists and make it very difficult to fly. You roll a bit, you will keep on rolling until you apply equal reverse roll to stop and same for all other axis.
You are looking for a space sim not a space combat arcade looter shooter.

[tsmspace]

Originally posted by Baker:

Has there ever been a space combat game with full Newtonian space flight physics?
I think Elite Dangerous comes the closest from those that I know about. You can turn off all assists and make it very difficult to fly. You roll a bit, you will keep on rolling until you apply equal reverse roll to stop and same for all other axis.
You are looking for a space sim not a space combat arcade looter shooter.

Infinity Battlescape gets pretty close,, much closer to the thrust characteristics, anyway, than Elite Dangerous does.

and it's not DIFFIcult, it's ENJOYable. Check "Flight of Nova" and if you don't mind some setup work in the dev-options menu of "Fly Dangerous" you can get some serious navigation practice. ASTROKILL is another indie game option,, but one always hopes to get the experience of a game like Everspace, without sacrificing the newtonian.

[Johnny Hazard]

But why, though?
Surely you know that those kind of controls are only present in current "stone-age" space ships and rockets? (considering how evolved sci-fi tech would be for these types of games vs current limited tech with manual controls and the inovations of AI that Elon Musk did on his rockets)
That surely, in a future where humans explore space, space-ships will HAVE to have AI and automated controls to compensate newtonian flight, or only a small handful of pilots would be allowed to fly (not exactly a lively galaxy filled with ace pilots, because, honestly, if you expect every jock out there to fine control a space-ship by hand...)
Are you perhaps a specialized pilot at Nasa or another space-program, or have you a seriously strong dream of being an astronaut?
Or are you just tilted in the head? No offense, because, we sci-fi lovers, are all a posse of tilted-in-the-head-dudes. ;)