oh boy here we go again..

[Bruin anusje]

Wollay released a new song on his soundcloud yesterday, cube world related? who knows..

https://on.soundcloud.com/W9Qxw9FYD8x7YeXQ9

enjoy! 🙃

[DeadlyKitten]

He better remake the game....

[OldManCrippler]

Originally posted by DeadlyKitten:

He better remake the game....

only when he needs rent money

[Lord]

For all those who only hate the game or the DEV's, please leave this forum, go find what to do, this should only be the people who still have faith in an update! Haters, spend your energies on something better than wasting time here, bye, hasta la vista baby!

[Hazy on the details]

Originally posted by Lord:

For all those who only hate the game or the DEV's, please leave this forum, go find what to do, this should only be the people who still have faith in an update! Haters, spend your energies on something better than wasting time here, bye, hasta la vista baby!

Nah, Wollay deserves to be called out on his ♥♥♥♥ every single time he pops up, dude ran away TWICE with peoples cash and failed to deliver what was promised.

[Torchit]

Wollay really is an ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥... If he apologized for running the first time and was open about the reason why. Hired someone else to develop it or returned money. Or at least redeemed himself the second time. But instead never apologized for anything and just ran twice. The only permanent thing you have in this game doesn't work and it has not been fixed. Stop licking boots of people who don't care about you...

[KNOCHIX]

Originally posted by Torchit:

Wollay really is an ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥... If he apologized for running the first time and was open about the reason why. Hired someone else to develop it or returned money. Or at least redeemed himself the second time. But instead never apologized for anything and just ran twice. The only permanent thing you have in this game doesn't work and it has not been fixed. Stop licking boots of people who don't care about you...

He already apologized for vanisheing years ago, but okay.

Since you don't know, I'm happy to clear that up for you. Wollay and his wife worked alone on Cube World for years, at some time they decided to put a public build online, the one we all love. But soon after Wollays shop got attacked by bots and got ddosed without a break, all while he just wanted to make Cube World. The first few months he just kept on developing and fixing the shop but after a while he just disabled the shop because the attacks got to much. He released some Upates and so on but the poeple couldn't buy the game, which is why they pressured him to get the store back running, after that Wollay's PC got hacked, he lost the new changes that were planned and had to start again. But because Wollay was a perfectionist who remakes things like every few days he didn't get far until there was hate spreading and people ranting about him and the lack of passion and determination, which was why he got panic attacks, anxiety and paranoia which lead to the shutting down of the OG store as well as to a completely remake of the game. After years of work he published that game on steam and he immediatly got attacks for being away to long, releasing a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ game and so on, which is why he does not say anything public anymore and just works for his own without anybody knowing what he does.

It's funny how you judge and insult a person with justifications which can be dismissed with a few google searches. I hope you understand why this behavior is inappropriate in discussions about Cube World since it's with the hacking one of the reasons why Wollay won't talk public about the game anymore.

[Torchit]

Originally posted by KNOCHIX:

Originally posted by Torchit:

Wollay really is an ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥... If he apologized for running the first time and was open about the reason why. Hired someone else to develop it or returned money. Or at least redeemed himself the second time. But instead never apologized for anything and just ran twice. The only permanent thing you have in this game doesn't work and it has not been fixed. Stop licking boots of people who don't care about you...

He already apologized for vanisheing years ago, but okay.

Since you don't know, I'm happy to clear that up for you. Wollay and his wife worked alone on Cube World for years, at some time they decided to put a public build online, the one we all love. But soon after Wollays shop got attacked by bots and got ddosed without a break, all while he just wanted to make Cube World. The first few months he just kept on developing and fixing the shop but after a while he just disabled the shop because the attacks got to much. He released some Upates and so on but the poeple couldn't buy the game, which is why they pressured him to get the store back running, after that Wollay's PC got hacked, he lost the new changes that were planned and had to start again. But because Wollay was a perfectionist who remakes things like every few days he didn't get far until there was hate spreading and people ranting about him and the lack of passion and determination, which was why he got panic attacks, anxiety and paranoia which lead to the shutting down of the OG store as well as to a completely remake of the game. After years of work he published that game on steam and he immediatly got attacks for being away to long, releasing a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ game and so on, which is why he does not say anything public anymore and just works for his own without anybody knowing what he does.

It's funny how you judge and insult a person with justifications which can be dismissed with a few google searches. I hope you understand why this behavior is inappropriate in discussions about Cube World since it's with the hacking one of the reasons why Wollay won't talk public about the game anymore.

Please link me the apology then... If you mean the blog post about DDoS then that is not an apology. It is more an excuse without any apology. That was like five years too late. The whole DDoS thing also sounds like BS. The game had a lot of hype behind it. So the DDoS was most likely just ton of people interested in the game. Which can be undestood as a shock to a small developer. Because now you have responsibility to huge crowd. And what was a fun project without any responsibility to anyone can now feel like hell with million eyes following you. But obviously communication is the basic thing you need to do with your now paying customers. Not just tweet a picture every month about a thing you are working on but actually tell people what is going on and apologize for delays. If you are honest and open about stuff a lot of people will forgive you and will even support you. I have never heard about his PC getting hacked. And google didn't find anything. So link that too please. He got attacks once again because he didn't keep a discussion with the community and developed the game in dark and in direction that nearly no one wanted and enjoyed. You have paying customers. You sold them an alpha product with promises. You either deliver on your promises or openly discuss change of direction. Look at No Man's Sky. They also got a lot of deserved hate but worked to actually address the issues and now if there will be NMS 2 or whatever then quite a few former haters will buy that because they shown that although they effectively lied at the time, they now have most of the features in game and can deliver what they promise. Now look at current Cube World... I judge and insult a person that unfortunately deserves it. I followed Cube World when it was just a blog and was looking forward to having pretty much a great game that would have similar fame to Minecraft. It was actually at the time on it's way there. Instead it is this broken husk. All thanks to it's creator. And trying to find excuses why Wollay should not address issues and fix his game is laughable. He ran again... Release date is 30 Sep, 2019. Please keep that in mind.

[Zebraoracle]

Originally posted by KNOCHIX:

Originally posted by Torchit:

Wollay really is an ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥... If he apologized for running the first time and was open about the reason why. Hired someone else to develop it or returned money. Or at least redeemed himself the second time. But instead never apologized for anything and just ran twice. The only permanent thing you have in this game doesn't work and it has not been fixed. Stop licking boots of people who don't care about you...

He already apologized for vanisheing years ago, but okay.

Since you don't know, I'm happy to clear that up for you. Wollay and his wife worked alone on Cube World for years, at some time they decided to put a public build online, the one we all love. But soon after Wollays shop got attacked by bots and got ddosed without a break, all while he just wanted to make Cube World. The first few months he just kept on developing and fixing the shop but after a while he just disabled the shop because the attacks got to much. He released some Upates and so on but the poeple couldn't buy the game, which is why they pressured him to get the store back running, after that Wollay's PC got hacked, he lost the new changes that were planned and had to start again. But because Wollay was a perfectionist who remakes things like every few days he didn't get far until there was hate spreading and people ranting about him and the lack of passion and determination, which was why he got panic attacks, anxiety and paranoia which lead to the shutting down of the OG store as well as to a completely remake of the game. After years of work he published that game on steam and he immediatly got attacks for being away to long, releasing a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ game and so on, which is why he does not say anything public anymore and just works for his own without anybody knowing what he does.

It's funny how you judge and insult a person with justifications which can be dismissed with a few google searches. I hope you understand why this behavior is inappropriate in discussions about Cube World since it's with the hacking one of the reasons why Wollay won't talk public about the game anymore.

Maybe he should have kept open communication with his fanbase and kept everyone aware of what was going on at the time, instead of remaining silent for very long periods of time.

At the end of the day, he handled this game's development and release and post-release support very poorly, and that's on him.

[Johnnie Walker]

love people trying to defend him beyond reason, u guys need a reality check. classic bait n switch to think i support him on alpha

[Belmont]

Originally posted by Lord:

For all those who only hate the game or the DEV's, please leave this forum, go find what to do, this should only be the people who still have faith in an update! Haters, spend your energies on something better than wasting time here, bye, hasta la vista baby!

That's not how a public open discussion forum works. People are entitled to speak and say their opinions as long as it's not in a hateful or vitriolic manner. Before you counter, no, having the opposite opinion isn't hateful.

It's not hateful to be critical of Wollay.
It's not hateful to point out the flaws in the retail release of Cube World.

Stop trying to silence critique or upset customers by creating a singular, echo chamber voice where you can wrap yourself up in a blanket of "everything's fine".

[macdaddymario]

Originally posted by Belmont:

Originally posted by Lord:

For all those who only hate the game or the DEV's, please leave this forum, go find what to do, this should only be the people who still have faith in an update! Haters, spend your energies on something better than wasting time here, bye, hasta la vista baby!

That's not how a public open discussion forum works. People are entitled to speak and say their opinions as long as it's not in a hateful or vitriolic manner. Before you counter, no, having the opposite opinion isn't hateful.

It's not hateful to be critical of Wollay.
It's not hateful to point out the flaws in the retail release of Cube World.

Stop trying to silence critique or upset customers by creating a singular, echo chamber voice where you can wrap yourself up in a blanket of "everything's fine".

"Wollay really is an ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥"

definition of hateful. Critique his methods, his game, whatever. Once you start making it personal against the person themselves instead of the methods, it becomes hate.

I don't have a dog in this race. I don't really care one way or another what happened/will happen with the game. That's the risk everyone that buys into an early access game accepts when they do it, and aren't entitled to a finished product. But if you're going to say ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ on a person isn't hate, you need to be called out on that one.

[Belmont]

Originally posted by macdaddymario:

Originally posted by Belmont:

That's not how a public open discussion forum works. People are entitled to speak and say their opinions as long as it's not in a hateful or vitriolic manner. Before you counter, no, having the opposite opinion isn't hateful.

It's not hateful to be critical of Wollay.
It's not hateful to point out the flaws in the retail release of Cube World.

Stop trying to silence critique or upset customers by creating a singular, echo chamber voice where you can wrap yourself up in a blanket of "everything's fine".

"Wollay really is an ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥"

definition of hateful. Critique his methods, his game, whatever. Once you start making it personal against the person themselves instead of the methods, it becomes hate.

I don't have a dog in this race. I don't really care one way or another what happened/will happen with the game. That's the risk everyone that buys into an early access game accepts when they do it, and aren't entitled to a finished product. But if you're going to say ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ on a person isn't hate, you need to be called out on that one.

You're quoting the wrong person there, pal. I didn't call Wollay that.

I critique his actions, his business practices, his inability to communicate with his fanbase and community, but I haven't used a derogatory term at him.

Scroll up and re-read. I'm not condoning hateful behavior against him. There's no reason to belittle or call him slanderous things. Nowhere in what I stated here, is that what I said.

Again, for the people in the back:

Critiquing Wollay's business practices is not hateful.
Criticizing Wollay's inability to communicate with his community is not hateful.
Calling out Wollay's self-damaging perfectionism driving his own anxiety and thus stating that this is clearly not the business field for him to be in if he cannot take constructive criticism is not hateful.

Stop lumping people together. You're being no better with that, then the people actually vitriolically attacking Wollay.

I'd appreciate next time if you actually read my reply instead of immediately jumping down my throat.

[macdaddymario]

Originally posted by Belmont:

Originally posted by macdaddymario:

"Wollay really is an ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥"

definition of hateful. Critique his methods, his game, whatever. Once you start making it personal against the person themselves instead of the methods, it becomes hate.

I don't have a dog in this race. I don't really care one way or another what happened/will happen with the game. That's the risk everyone that buys into an early access game accepts when they do it, and aren't entitled to a finished product. But if you're going to say ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ on a person isn't hate, you need to be called out on that one.

You're quoting the wrong person there, pal. I didn't call Wollay that.

I critique his actions, his business practices, his inability to communicate with his fanbase and community, but I haven't used a derogatory term at him.

Scroll up and re-read. I'm not condoning hateful behavior against him. There's no reason to belittle or call him slanderous things. Nowhere in what I stated here, is that what I said.

Again, for the people in the back:

Critiquing Wollay's business practices is not hateful.
Criticizing Wollay's inability to communicate with his community is not hateful.
Calling out Wollay's self-damaging perfectionism driving his own anxiety and thus stating that this is clearly not the business field for him to be in if he cannot take constructive criticism is not hateful.

Stop lumping people together. You're being no better with that, then the people actually vitriolically attacking Wollay.

I'd appreciate next time if you actually read my reply instead of immediately jumping down my throat.

No, I didn't quote the wrong person. I quoted the person who jumped on someone else, who was telling others to keep the hate to themselves... who then didn't also call out the people who were acting in a hateful manner.

No need to reread anything, and no right to attempt to appear superior to your original comment that in no way addressed a systemic issue that *HAS* happened here (the general discussions, not this specific post) on more than one occasion.

[Belmont]

Originally posted by macdaddymario:

Originally posted by Belmont:

You're quoting the wrong person there, pal. I didn't call Wollay that.

I critique his actions, his business practices, his inability to communicate with his fanbase and community, but I haven't used a derogatory term at him.

Scroll up and re-read. I'm not condoning hateful behavior against him. There's no reason to belittle or call him slanderous things. Nowhere in what I stated here, is that what I said.

Again, for the people in the back:

Critiquing Wollay's business practices is not hateful.
Criticizing Wollay's inability to communicate with his community is not hateful.
Calling out Wollay's self-damaging perfectionism driving his own anxiety and thus stating that this is clearly not the business field for him to be in if he cannot take constructive criticism is not hateful.

Stop lumping people together. You're being no better with that, then the people actually vitriolically attacking Wollay.

I'd appreciate next time if you actually read my reply instead of immediately jumping down my throat.

No, I didn't quote the wrong person. I quoted the person who jumped on someone else, who was telling others to keep the hate to themselves... who then didn't also call out the people who were acting in a hateful manner.

No need to reread anything, and no right to attempt to appear superior to your original comment that in no way addressed a systemic issue that *HAS* happened here (the general discussions, not this specific post) on more than one occasion.

So you're delusional as well. Cool.

This is exactly the same thing that happened at launch.

Let me put this is a big huge disclaimer so you can understand:

"I DO NOT CONDONE THE PERSONAL ATTACKING OF WOLLAY IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM. CRITIQUE AND CRITICISM OF A PRODUCT AND BUSINESS PRACTICE DOES NOT EQUATE TO JUSTIFYING HATEFUL ATTACKS ON THE CREATOR OF SAID PRODUCT."

However, if you think I'm going to be a moderator and police the thread, instead of simply replying to things to make my point, then yes, you truly are delusional.

I'm not concerned what the trolls are doing, because I refuse to feed the trolls. The more you interact with them, the more they feed off that and continue to spit hate Wollay's way. Welcome to the internet. That's one of the things that started that poor train towards Wollay back then, because the "omg Wollay is perfect" white knights shut down every single normal point brought up and issue brought up, and that created the trolls.

But whatever, I see my annual check in on this copium-infused forum has gone about the same as it has every other time. All of you enjoy huffing your happy gas and trying to decipher the meaning of life, the universe, and everything regarding the non-existent Cube World updates by microanalyzing something like Wollay updating a spotify playlist.

[Zuluknob]

People investigated the DDOS attack claim, found it to be likely a misunderstanding on Wolloy's part. His system just couldn't cope with the amount of interest of real people and crashed.

Even if it were a real DDOS attack that doesn't excuse the behaviour. Posting screenshots of ever better builds on his twitter without releasing a updated build to the backers and eventually releasing this cut back abomination of what was shaping up to be an amazing game.