Final Fantasy 13

[nhussaini79]

Anybody have this game working using Helixvision? When I click play in VR it seems the game tries to start and then just quits. I have tried the full screen addition in the exe file and it does the same thing. It even quits when using Vorpx. I can start the game just fine in 2d. I can also start the game in 3d either with Helixvision or the Nvidia control panal and play the game using virtual desktop and enabling anaglyph. But have do deal with the RGB colors. This game just doesn't want to hook with any application. Any suggestions would be helpful. This game looks good in 3d.

[Bo3b]

Escrito originalmente por nhussaini79:

I just found this online:

"Final Fantasy XIII, XIII-2, Lightning Returns
Win 10 Pro 1809 431.60 Driver
This game has a launcher but hangs on launch in VR.
Can make game run in 3d vision with Assassins Creed 3 Nvidia Inspector profile substitution and also must use windowed mode in launcher to make game load correctly. Seems to be easier to run windowed and with 3d enabled then with the -fullscreen command on shortcut.
All games are running using DX9 Helix fix."

Can I try this? Can you give me some help on doing this? I have no idea what nvidia inspector is or how to use it.

That is worth a try, changing profiles can sometimes work around different problems.

You can get to the NVidia Profie Inspector from HelixVision. Go to Settings Tab, and Application Settings. Scroll down and you'll find NVidia Profile Inspector, and you can click Start to launch it. Then you follow the instructions for finding the game profile, and switching the exe to use the AC3 profile instead. You can tell what profile is active using the Ctrl-Alt-Ins key when 3D is running. You'll get a green text in the lower right corner of your screen.

[nhussaini79]

Escrito originalmente por Bo3b:

Escrito originalmente por nhussaini79:

I just found this online:

"Final Fantasy XIII, XIII-2, Lightning Returns
Win 10 Pro 1809 431.60 Driver
This game has a launcher but hangs on launch in VR.
Can make game run in 3d vision with Assassins Creed 3 Nvidia Inspector profile substitution and also must use windowed mode in launcher to make game load correctly. Seems to be easier to run windowed and with 3d enabled then with the -fullscreen command on shortcut.
All games are running using DX9 Helix fix."

Can I try this? Can you give me some help on doing this? I have no idea what nvidia inspector is or how to use it.

That is worth a try, changing profiles can sometimes work around different problems.

You can get to the NVidia Profie Inspector from HelixVision. Go to Settings Tab, and Application Settings. Scroll down and you'll find NVidia Profile Inspector, and you can click Start to launch it. Then you follow the instructions for finding the game profile, and switching the exe to use the AC3 profile instead. You can tell what profile is active using the Ctrl-Alt-Ins key when 3D is running. You'll get a green text in the lower right corner of your screen.

I downloaded the inspector tool and then ran it. I deleted the final fantasy 13 profile and then went to the AC3 profile and added the FF13 exe file to that profile. I then deleted the AC3 exe files so the only one was FF13. The bottom right did show AC3 name so it looks like the change worked but it still just force closes when I click play in VR from helixvision.

[nhussaini79]

Escrito originalmente por nhussaini79:

Escrito originalmente por Bo3b:

That is worth a try, changing profiles can sometimes work around different problems.

You can get to the NVidia Profie Inspector from HelixVision. Go to Settings Tab, and Application Settings. Scroll down and you'll find NVidia Profile Inspector, and you can click Start to launch it. Then you follow the instructions for finding the game profile, and switching the exe to use the AC3 profile instead. You can tell what profile is active using the Ctrl-Alt-Ins key when 3D is running. You'll get a green text in the lower right corner of your screen.

I downloaded the inspector tool and then ran it. I deleted the final fantasy 13 profile and then went to the AC3 profile and added the FF13 exe file to that profile. I then deleted the AC3 exe files so the only one was FF13. The bottom right did show AC3 name so it looks like the change worked but it still just force closes when I click play in VR from helixvision.

If I hover over super depth 3d it says in red failed to compile and I have no options at the bottom to chabge. Then i can see in red the file location with an error that says error x3531 can't unroll loops marked with loop attribute. I can turn on performance mode and it's no longer red and I can checkmark the box now but still no options to change.

[Bo3b]

Escrito originalmente por nhussaini79:

If I hover over super depth 3d it says in red failed to compile and I have no options at the bottom to chabge. Then i can see in red the file location with an error that says error x3531 can't unroll loops marked with loop attribute. I can turn on performance mode and it's no longer red and I can checkmark the box now but still no options to change.

Really strange error there. That error happens if the shader itself cannot be compiled by the Microsoft HLSL compiler. The note about unrolling loops is an older error, so that suggests that the runtime is somehow using an antique version of the HLSL compiler and getting this error. Might be worth dropping in the d3d3compiler_46.dll or _47.dll. If it's in the game directory, I think that Reshade will pick that up and use it to compile. You can most easily find this file in the 3Dmigoto that comes with HelixVision under Tools directory.

Also- you can manually edit the settings in the .ini files that are included with the prototype, so if you really think it is running under Performance mode just not adjustable, you can manually tweak the settings in the .ini and reload the game. I would not expect that to work, but maybe performance mode trims some stuff out of the shader so that it can compile.

[nhussaini79]

Escrito originalmente por Bo3b:

Escrito originalmente por nhussaini79:

If I hover over super depth 3d it says in red failed to compile and I have no options at the bottom to chabge. Then i can see in red the file location with an error that says error x3531 can't unroll loops marked with loop attribute. I can turn on performance mode and it's no longer red and I can checkmark the box now but still no options to change.

Really strange error there. That error happens if the shader itself cannot be compiled by the Microsoft HLSL compiler. The note about unrolling loops is an older error, so that suggests that the runtime is somehow using an antique version of the HLSL compiler and getting this error. Might be worth dropping in the d3d3compiler_46.dll or _47.dll. If it's in the game directory, I think that Reshade will pick that up and use it to compile. You can most easily find this file in the 3Dmigoto that comes with HelixVision under Tools directory.

Also- you can manually edit the settings in the .ini files that are included with the prototype, so if you really think it is running under Performance mode just not adjustable, you can manually tweak the settings in the .ini and reload the game. I would not expect that to work, but maybe performance mode trims some stuff out of the shader so that it can compile.

Thanks Bob, blueskydefender fixed the issue and it's working great. I was also installing it incorrectly. I downloaded it correctly and after the fix by Blueskydefender I was able to increase the depth and I have to admit I'm pretty blown away by the affect. I even went back and tried it with tales of zestiria and just blown away by the affect. Thanks for all your help.

[nhussaini79]

I hate to bring back an old thread but I would really appreciate Bob if you could look at this when you have time. I will even buy final fantasy 13-2 for you when it goes on sale to work on it. I finished ff13 completely with reshade and I enjoyed the 3d but I really want to play the next game with HelixVision. I purchased ff13-2 on sale and tried it with Helixvision and got the same thing. It force closes the game when clicking on play in VR. It seems my monitor changes to 720p and then back to 2180p and then just force closes the game when I click play in VR. I refunded the game but will purchase next time it's on sale. I really enjoyed ff13 and want to continue the series. Superdepth 3d is good but once you increase the depth the way I like it some weird image or blur shows up around the character and it just gets annoying after a while. Or if anybody has had success and wants to chime in on how they did it I would really appreciate it.

[The_Nephilim1]

@nhussain79 GOOD NEWS I cracked this nut.. I have a working copy in VR with Helixvision.. I am currently going to run through and see what I can fix but the old fix will not work and we need to get a new fix but I am not expecting many things o be broke the biggest is gonna be shadows.

I will upload a fix in a few hours gonna go in and have a look but I cracked the old DX9 games not working and found a great workaround for the old dx9 games that refuse to work in HelixVision..

Hopefully you catch this soon as we should be able to fix those other games you mentioned as well but no promises this was tough to get working but I got it.. Stoked iwhat I am right now..

[The_Nephilim1]

Here is the Fix, inside the zipped file is 2 files one folder is #210 that folder is for the helixvision folder fixes located where you installed Steam/Helixvision at.

The 2nd folder is "bin" folder that is the fix you will have to manually add it to the game folder where the game exe is located. just copy it over to the bin folder in the FFXII folder. I am going to talk to someone about what to do with these Different fixes for Helixvision..

As these new fixes are DX11 with the help of DGVooDoo2. hopefully it will transfer over well you may have to tweak the DGVooDoo config on your own.. you really ashould only need to change the address where it is located as it might have my target line in it..

If you have any questions let me know I had disabled shadows for now and there maybe a ton of stuff wrong someone else might have to pickup where I left off but it is somewhat playable which is good in itself..

DONT INSTALL THE FIX FROM HELIXMOD BLOG.


here is the DL Link:

https://nephilim3d.s3.amazonaws.com/FFXIII.7z

Enjoy'

[nhussaini79]

Hey man thanks so much for this. Really stocked to try this out. My work load is really heavy at the moment but I will definitely be trying this new fix. Thanks again for working on this! I will report soon.

[The_Nephilim1]

OK hopefully it works for you there are some things broke I was trying to fix them but PC is refusing to be cooperative LOL! I will have a look as soon as I can get this sorted.

[The_Nephilim1]

@nhusainni, important thing to do is install the fix manually then you can launch the game from helixvision. do not install fix from the launcher..

We are having issues with HV Picking up the profile and it will not work if you install the fix as that is the dx9 fix.. wierd how it works right now I am worining on a fix.. if you have any issues or have a question Please post..

Sorry for the trouble but something wierd is going on here and I am trying to track it down..

[The_Nephilim1]

here is the updated fix on the HwelixBlog. if you have any questions let me know.. remeber there still maybe and is some broke effects, I did not plan on doing the entire fix just wanted to see if we can get the conversion working with Helixvision which it did..


https://helixmod.blogspot.com/2022/07/ffxiii-dx9-to-dx11-conversion-3d-fix-wip.html




Hopefully it is not broke too bad later in the game.. I was going to try and fix the eyes and hair on Lightning but fixing the skin color was tough and probally not the correct way to fix it..

[nhussaini79]

Escrito originalmente por The_Nephilim1:

@nhusainni, important thing to do is install the fix manually then you can launch the game from helixvision. do not install fix from the launcher..

We are having issues with HV Picking up the profile and it will not work if you install the fix as that is the dx9 fix.. wierd how it works right now I am worining on a fix.. if you have any issues or have a question Please post..

Sorry for the trouble but something wierd is going on here and I am trying to track it down..

Ok got it. I have downloaded the fix and will install it soon. Don't worry about broken effects at least for me because I have already beaten the game. I definitely want to see what it looks like though with helixvision. I still have a few optional bosses to beat and maybe I can do those with this fix. Once again thanks for working on this

[The_Nephilim1]

hey NP I can continue to tweak but it is not really my thing. my skills are very basic haha!! let me know if you have any issues or need help setting it up but it should just work..


EDIT: Hey DL this file here and put it in your shaderfixes folder. it fixes the secondary char a bit.. I am also working on the eyes of the main char but they are proving difficult..


https://nephilim3d.s3.amazonaws.com/7b67653dbd662343-ps.txt

[nhussaini79]

I did exactly what you said put the 210 folder in the fixes folder in helixvision path from steam and manually put the fix in the ff13 folder where the exe file is. When I click play in vr the game plays in 2d on my monitor but either get the white screen saying loading ff13 in my headset or it just stays on the steam vr main screen. Also alot of games that used to work I tried for fun like kena, little nightmares and it only renders in my right eye. I really wanted to try the universal fix that says works with bravely default 2 but it also just sits on the white screen saying loading. I don't know man.