Josy/Maya with little different scene

[NM005]

I just curious about some little different scene when you in josy/maya relationship route because i just try more than 2 time to play in same route and these is some of little different scene that i get. for examples, the scene that MC prepare his room for josy/maya to talk and spend night together then MC go to meet sage and then when he come back, i see that they have some different scene like 1. they cover their tits 2. they just show it. Another scene is when you have sex with maya at the dorm party event, at the end of the scene, it has 2 scenery like 1. maya will allow MC to creampire her and 2. she didn't allow. Or another small scene like each josy and maya will holding your hand or not, kiss you or not during entire game scene events. For all of these, i just want to know

1. did you guy know any of little different scene in josy&maya path except the two that i write above?
2.Is these relate to RP for each Josy&Maya? or just ♥♥♥ Status and Affinity at that time or both or any requirement for trigger these little different scene?
3. DId little different scene will be consequence in the future? Like Sex with maya at the dorm party that have different scene which is she allow to do it inside and isn't allow scene and there are no choice for MC to choose to do it or not at that moment just let story play through.

[The Dentist]

I'm guessing that these differences are related to RP totals. If they were affinity-related, generally the option would appear but greyed-out and unable to select. They could also be subtle branches arising from past choices you made. Whether the differences will have future consequences is anyone's guess. I would say "yes" unless you are able to make up the difference in the meantime. Another subtle difference, as I've heard, is whether Josy holds your hand when first entering the gym. I'm sure there are others as well.

[Jamison]

3. well you get the Maya creampie scene if Maya trusts you, which seems to happen if you visited Maya (instead of Josy) in episode 7. The guide doesn't say what the determining factor is, so I can't say if it's solely visiting Maya in episode 7, or if RP plays a part too.

[Moonblade]

Originally posted by NM005:

1. they cover their tits 2. they just show it.

Never have gotten the version of they covering their tits, I would presume that is affinity related since it applied to both of them.

Originally posted by NM005:

1. maya will allow MC to creampire her and 2. she didn't allow.

This is triggered only by whether you did the TV scene (she allows it) or not (she doesn't) in Ep 7

Originally posted by NM005:

Or another small scene like each josy and maya will holding your hand or not, kiss you or not during entire game scene events. For all of these, i just want to know

Josy holding your hand when entering the Gym is triggered by whether you had sex at least two times with her during Ep 7

Originally posted by NM005:

1. did you guy know any of little different scene in josy&maya path except the two that i write above?

If you go to Josy in Ep 5 and Ep 7 she shows up at the MC's room wearing the red sweater the MC gave her during the first date early in the game.

Originally posted by NM005:

2.Is these relate to RP for each Josy&Maya? or just ♥♥♥ Status and Affinity at that time or both or any requirement for trigger these little different scene?

Not sure about the one you mentioned early on (showing their tits or not) because this is the first time I've ever seen being brought up. I suspect that is affinity related (someone Neutral/Chick at the end of Ep 4 who swapped to ♥♥♥ afterwards.)

Originally posted by NM005:

3. DId little different scene will be consequence in the future? Like Sex with maya at the dorm party that have different scene which is she allow to do it inside and isn't allow scene and there are no choice for MC to choose to do it or not at that moment just let story play through.

It would make sense if they do, otherwise I don't see a reason for Pink to highlight these differences.

I personally suspect that, given that Maya/Josy path was the only one which resolution was delayed, there will be a chance of them rejecting you if certain conditions aren't fulfilled.

[The Dentist]

Maybe I'm fooling myself, but I felt like MC (by the end of S2) had achieved an advantage over Maya for Josy's affection with these subtle differences (sweater and hand-holding). Also, she liked that I called her "my girl" at the HOT party, and Elena sensed love between us at the dorm party. This trend could continue to build as the story progresses, suggesting a possible MC/Josy ending as one of multiple variants.

[Dethlane]

It isn't affinity or status-related. Went MJ route with all affinities (including combined, like N affinity + D status), scenes didn't change. My guess about Maya and Josy covering their tits (it's first time I've heard about this variation) is that you didn't have enough RP with them and/or didn't show enough affection to them in S2 (e.g. didn't have sex and cuddle Josy in ep7, didn't go to Maya in ep5&7, etc.).

[Moonblade]

Originally posted by Dethlane:

It isn't affinity or status-related. Went MJ route with all affinities (including combined, like N affinity + D status), scenes didn't change. My guess about Maya and Josy covering their tits (it's first time I've heard about this variation) is that you didn't have enough RP with them and/or didn't show enough affection to them in S2 (e.g. didn't have sex and cuddle Josy in ep7, didn't go to Maya in ep5&7, etc.).

A player in Discord posted the SS. He is hell bent into the Solo Josy, wants they to break up and has rejected any interaction with Maya in game so far (other than the scripted ones)

https://imgur.com/a/U4bVK0B

Even after his exclusive focus in Josy, she still is not comfortable enough with the MC presence there and has to cover her tits. Most of the Discord Solo Josy advocates are getting the scene with the tits covered (in fact they didn't know about the "uncovered" one)

Read the writing on the wall, just saying.

[The Dentist]

Originally posted by Moonblade:

Originally posted by Dethlane:

It isn't affinity or status-related. Went MJ route with all affinities (including combined, like N affinity + D status), scenes didn't change. My guess about Maya and Josy covering their tits (it's first time I've heard about this variation) is that you didn't have enough RP with them and/or didn't show enough affection to them in S2 (e.g. didn't have sex and cuddle Josy in ep7, didn't go to Maya in ep5&7, etc.).

A player in Discord posted the SS. He is hell bent into the Solo Josy, wants they to break up and has rejected any interaction with Maya in game so far (other than the scripted ones)

https://imgur.com/a/U4bVK0B

Even after his exclusive focus in Josy, she still is not comfortable enough with the MC presence there and has to cover her tits. Most of the Discord Solo Josy advocates are getting the scene with the tits covered (in fact they didn't know about the "uncovered" one)

Read the writing on the wall, just saying.

As much as this player is hell-bent on breaking the M/J couple, you seem hell-bent on keeping it together.
You obviously have thoughtful arguments for your position, but seem to reject out-of-hand equally thoughtful arguments to the contrary.

Personally, I have no ethical dilemma with either outcome, and believe there is a strong argument that both variant endings will likely be offered in multiple forms.

But don't worry....I'm sure these animations will survive the trauma. Just saying.

[Moonblade]

Originally posted by The Dentist:

As much as this player is hell-bent on breaking the M/J couple, you seem hell-bent on keeping it together.
You obviously have thoughtful arguments for your position, but seem to reject out-of-hand equally thoughtful arguments to the contrary.

Personally, I have no ethical dilemma with either outcome, and believe there is a strong argument that both variant endings will likely be offered in multiple forms.

But don't worry....I'm sure these animations will survive the trauma. Just saying.

If Pink has plans for them to break up, is up to him, and I trust that he will develop the story leading to it in a way that will be credible and not feeling as a fan service.

What I contest is the inevitability of it. Almost everybody wanting a solo path with either of them flatly deny the possibility that the Throuple/Couple (if you're not in their relationship) never will break up and that the solo paths always will happen, and then grasp to flimsy arguments to support their point

[The Dentist]

I agree that there is NO inevitability to this story, but I don't read that into the arguments that I've read. However, we know that DPC offers multiple endings tailored to the in-game choices made. It seems very likely that both variants will be included in multiple forms as possible endings.

[The Dentist]

Originally posted by Dethlane:

It isn't affinity or status-related. Went MJ route with all affinities (including combined, like N affinity + D status), scenes didn't change. My guess about Maya and Josy covering their tits (it's first time I've heard about this variation) is that you didn't have enough RP with them and/or didn't show enough affection to them in S2 (e.g. didn't have sex and cuddle Josy in ep7, didn't go to Maya in ep5&7, etc.).

I believe I've seen both scenes while manipulating Maya's RP's in my pt's and here's how I see the relationship dynamics working:

Each of the 3 couples in the throuple has a current RP score at any single moment. Let's say MC/Josy=X, MC/Maya=Y, and Josy/Maya=Z. The health of the Throuple then can be represented at any moment by X+Y+Z. My guess is that in this test scene, with both characters, the throuple score would determine the outcome. If throuple is above a threshold number, you will get tits out, but if below threshold you see tits covered (and this may be a sign that your throuple is weak). Since M/J cannot seperate due to storyline, there could be status effects for MC, manifesting in these visual cues. You might also wonder how the Z (M/J) variable could change. I would suggest, as a result of their personal ups and downs, and maybe some other factors such as jealosy (perhaps if the difference between X and Y is too great).

Of course this is all speculation on my part, but in theory and practice, it seems plausible.

[Moonblade]

Originally posted by The Dentist:

I believe I've seen both scenes while manipulating Maya's RP's in my pt's and here's how I see it:
Each of the 3 couples in the throuple has a current RP score at any single moment. Let's say MC/Josy=x, MC/Maya=y, and Josy/Maya=z. The health of the Throuple then can be represented at any moment by x+y+z. My guess is that in this test scene, with both characters, the throuple score would determine the outcome. If throuple is above a threshold number, you will get tits out, but if below threshold you see tits covered (and this may be a sign that your throuple is weak). Since M/J cannot seperate due to storyline, there could be status effects for MC, resulting in these visual cues.

RP with Maya/Josy sometimes work in unusual ways. Since Maya had more screen time during S1, her absolute RP tally is higher than Josy, who started to be more involved during S2 (in fact, Josy even was kinda of a background character during Ep 5 and Ep 6, gaining a huge boost during Ep 7 and Ep 8). Note that in the branching of Ep 5, there are two RP+ points for Josy if you go with her (one for accepting to "take it slow" and the second for reassuring her), however, get this, if you go to Maya, there are NO RP+ points with Maya and the only RP+ point involved in the interaction goes to Josy instead. You can make up the second RP point you "lost" not going to Josy if you call her instead of Maya while staying at Bella's.

I think (I'm not going to use a PT to test this, this is not a research project where I have to explore every nook and cranny) that is bound to doing the TV scene or not in Ep 7 (a lot of Maya interactions during Ep 8 are bound to that choice).

Still something that surprises me is that for the MC who is focused only in Josy, I would have expected her to feel comfortable enough with MC's presence there to let her tits show, while Maya understandably would cover hers. However the fact that both of them (even when you have chosen Josy at every turn) aren't comfortable enough with the MC there is sending HUGE red flags. For them, this is an instinctual reaction, and is telling us that the MC with this attitude hasn't earned their (yes, both of them) full trust yet (and given that the Ep 9 will force a choice, possibly never will have the chance to recover)

[The Dentist]

Please review my post since I edited it to try to clarify. Also, I don't think you can get a scene with tits on one and covered by the other. Its both or neither, and therefore, they are testing (in this particular case) as a single unit, theoretically using the throuple score.

Moonblade, I noticed in one of your posts, you referred to individual segments of another post. Since I'm new to this, please tell me how this is done.

[Moonblade]

Originally posted by The Dentist:

Please review my post since I edited it to try to clarify. Also, I don't think you can get a scene with tits on one and covered by the other. Its both or neither, and therefore, they are testing as a single unit.

Precisely my point, focusing only on one (either Maya or Josy) leads to BOTH of them not feeling comfortable with the MC. The fact that the girl you've been focusing on still is wary of the MC there is sending a HUGE red flag, that focusing on one of them is not the right strategy to gain her trust. The girl you're focusing on is not feeling flattered, but possibly annoyed instead, she feels that you're trying to sneakily snatch her out of the Throuple and being dishonest.

To quote segments, you open the reply and close the quote ([/quote]) where you want to cut the post, then copy (Cntrl+c) the quote=<author of the post> (with brackets), paste it (Cntrl+v) where you want to start the new reference and end it again with [/quote] and so on

[Dethlane]

Originally posted by Moonblade:

A player in Discord posted the SS. He is hell bent into the Solo Josy, wants they to break up and has rejected any interaction with Maya in game so far (other than the scripted ones)

https://imgur.com/a/U4bVK0B

Even after his exclusive focus in Josy, she still is not comfortable enough with the MC presence there and has to cover her tits. Most of the Discord Solo Josy advocates are getting the scene with the tits covered (in fact they didn't know about the "uncovered" one)

Read the writing on the wall, just saying.

So basically if player neglects one of them, Maya and Josy are both not comfortable with MC's presence in intimate situations. One more sign (quite thick one) that no good will come out of such behaviour (let alone trying to break them apart).

Originally posted by Moonblade:

and given that the Ep 9 will force a choice

Umm, what choice? Don't we choose a route to commit in ep8?

[The Dentist]

Moonblade,
I think you are extrapolating your point too far. This is merely one test out of hundreds. The interplay of these variables can be used in many different scenarios, so I don't accept your conclusion on managing the throuple (you can only conclude that it is not the right strategy to see her tits in this scene).