Jill (Spoilers)

[jack_of_tears]

I am confused as to why I didn't have the option to ask Jill out at the end of this season; I went on stage, played her song, and coaxed her into gaining the courage to fulfill a dream. I've helped her at every opportunity, aside from the Birthday visit (I had already promised Sage, I couldn't very well say 'sorry, not going to help my sick friend'), yet my character somehow thinks he isn't close enough to her to ask? It made no sense.

[76561198968230007]

Not going with Jill on your birthday is the pivot. It makes no sense because you missed out on what transpired there.

[jack_of_tears]

Originally posted by JadenVox:

Not going with Jill on your birthday is the pivot. It makes no sense because you missed out on what transpired there.

I saw the scene and it was very meaningful but I felt the stage performance was just as meaningful. She was asking me to flake out on a sick friend for a last-minute ride we could just as easily do the next day - I would have thought the integrity I showed by not flaking on my friend would mean something, too.

[R4MPZY]

Originally posted by jack_of_tears:

Originally posted by JadenVox:

Not going with Jill on your birthday is the pivot. It makes no sense because you missed out on what transpired there.

I saw the scene and it was very meaningful but I felt the stage performance was just as meaningful. She was asking me to flake out on a sick friend for a last-minute ride we could just as easily do the next day - I would have thought the integrity I showed by not flaking on my friend would mean something, too.

The stage performance can happen with any route the MC takes, its not only for Jill route.

[Scissorhead]

I lot of people are upset about helping a sick "friend" but you literally go over to spoon and emotionally bond with a sexual partner who also happens to be sick. Lol its not really as valiant as everyone tries to make it sound, but its explained in the dialogue, Jill believes in signs and destiny. She wasn't mad, she took it as a sign that you aren't meant to be. You also find out on that date that Jill is a horse girl. A disappointment, but it makes sense that a virgin horse girl is going to think like that lol (ok maybe I'm just kidding) but if you get her ending she brings up destiny again. The picnic date is crucial to her story and I thought it was obvious that it was a moment where you had to choose between the two. Which girls feelings matter more. Jill wants a serious relationship, if you choose to help Sage you are choosing to continue messing around with other girls. I don't think it's that weird for that to have mattered in the grand scheme.

[R4MPZY]

Originally posted by Scissorhead:

I lot of people are upset about helping a sick "friend" but you literally go over to spoon and emotionally bond with a sexual partner who also happens to be sick. Lol its not really as valiant as everyone tries to make it sound, but its explained in the dialogue, Jill believes in signs and destiny. She wasn't mad, she took it as a sign that you aren't meant to be. You also find out on that date that Jill is a horse girl. A disappointment, but it makes sense that a virgin horse girl is going to think like that lol (ok maybe I'm just kidding) but if you get her ending she brings up destiny again. The picnic date is crucial to her story and I thought it was obvious that it was a moment where you had to choose between the two. Which girls feelings matter more. Jill wants a serious relationship, if you choose to help Sage you are choosing to continue messing around with other girls. I don't think it's that weird for that to have mattered in the grand scheme.

You can just help Sage as a friend though, you dont "spoon" if you're not FB

[Scissorhead]

Originally posted by R4MPZY:

Originally posted by Scissorhead:

I lot of people are upset about helping a sick "friend" but you literally go over to spoon and emotionally bond with a sexual partner who also happens to be sick. Lol its not really as valiant as everyone tries to make it sound, but its explained in the dialogue, Jill believes in signs and destiny. She wasn't mad, she took it as a sign that you aren't meant to be. You also find out on that date that Jill is a horse girl. A disappointment, but it makes sense that a virgin horse girl is going to think like that lol (ok maybe I'm just kidding) but if you get her ending she brings up destiny again. The picnic date is crucial to her story and I thought it was obvious that it was a moment where you had to choose between the two. Which girls feelings matter more. Jill wants a serious relationship, if you choose to help Sage you are choosing to continue messing around with other girls. I don't think it's that weird for that to have mattered in the grand scheme.

You can just help Sage as a friend though, you dont "spoon" if you're not FB

Oh i didn't know that. Ok I take it back LOL

[R4MPZY]

If you tell Sage you're only there to play guitar for her in S1 she sends you away and ignores you until ep5 where she says she regrets it and wants to be friends if nothing else, so in ep6 you can always call her as an optional thing ( if you are FB you have to call her, not optional )

[Scissorhead]

My first playthrough I was locked out of Sages path because I insisted I wanted to teach her guitar, so I did know that, but I lost that save and I never continued that into ssn 2. That's actually cool to know.

[jack_of_tears]

The thing about her believing in signs and destiny makes sense, I suppose, but I thought better of Jill; I didn't think helping a sick friend would be the thing that ended our chances.

If this were real life I'd say I dodged a bullet; if the girl I liked wanted me to choose between helping a sick friend or hanging out with her (when we're not even a couple, yet), I'd drop her in a minute. Why would she want someone who'd break their word and ditch a friend like that?

[76561198968230007]

The other reason why people "get upset" is they keep thinking that they are the MC. The player is not the MC. The player guides the MC. The player can view scenes and gain knowledge the player doesn't know. Similar MC does things during those times where the player is unaware what the MC did.

Depending on your Playthrough options, you can tell sage you don't want to get sick and don't help her. It's only a problem if you promise to come and don't. In real life we call those BBD (Bigger Better Deals). Pulling a BBD on someone will make them upset.

Don't want to hurt Jill, don't pursue her. Don't want to hurt Sage, don't promise to come. The glory of multiple playthroughs. Trying to harem a non-harem game is one's downfall.

Play Acting Lessons for a.... lesson...

[jack_of_tears]

Originally posted by JadenVox:

The other reason why people "get upset" is they keep thinking that they are the MC.

Nobody thinks that any more than they think Commander Shepard is really them just because they control the character and make the decisions for them. When playing the game, one still tends to refer to their character as 'me' whether it's modeled after them or not.

Also, those answers are all coppouts - 'You don't want to disappoint Jill, don't pursue her', BS, by that logic nobody could ever casually date anyone and you'd have to simply decide whether you wanted to date someone the moment you met them. Forking nonsense.

Also, Acting Lessons is dated and looks terrible.

[76561198968230007]

Lots of people post thinking they are the MC. Not just here mind you too.

AL is DPC's first game, sure the graphics are older., but the story is stellar. People stuck on graphics snobbery are missing out.

[jack_of_tears]

Originally posted by JadenVox:

People stuck on graphics snobbery are missing out.

Graphics snobbery is kind of important in a pron game.

[76561198968230007]

Ah, you are in for the fap not the story. kk
Enjoy!

[jack_of_tears]

Originally posted by JadenVox:

Ah, you are in for the fap not the story. kk
Enjoy!

I wasn't aware the team for a Pron game were so disdainful of the people who buy pron games - I'll keep that in mind when making my future purchases.