New Achilles Update problem

[Absolute Zero]

I just finished a game where I fortunately had to eliminate every other AI, but I encountered a big issue with the first one I tried that with. The new surrender mechanics make it so if the enemy declares war on me and I do not want to surrender under any circumstances, I'm absolutely screwed eventually. I got his support to 0, but he never accepted surrender terms. This put an increasing negative war support on me because he would never surrender even though he started the war and had the only demands. So eventually we both had 0 war support, but neither would surrender. Increasing stability negatives but mine were higher than his so it kept going on forever and ever. Probably 50+ turns. So I decided to claim all his cities, maybe that will force him to surrender. Didn't work. I ended up doing literally the only thing left to me. I removed him from the game. Every single outpost and city and unit. He. Still. Did. Not. Surrender. His civilization was eliminated a few turns later, but seriously.

How is that the solution to this endless war problem?? You put on debuffs to incentivize players to eventually surrender, but what if they didn't? I get the idea, but there needs to be an eventual moment where you have to surrender. Or at least have the AI take the mentality. I mean, he wanted a single territory. I didn't want to give it. It's nothing to start an empire deletion war, but I had no other choice. But I'm the human, so I have the mindset to say "well this isn't worth it so I guess I'll surrender since he never will and give him what he wants..." EVEN THOUGH I WON. I completely wrecked the guy and I had no demands, but I'm the one who has to be the one to surrender because your mechanics make it so he can choose to never do it.

[Rohen]

Had the same problem on the beta branch (you can find my post literally 4 post under yours in this discussion thread). You probably also had an Ai that never surrenders. Sadly it doesnt look like anyone from the devs actually look into the things posted here so its sadly waste of time.

[AfArSeMoN]

Idk if that's the same issue I'm having but I just cannot even send surrender term to the losing enemy, the button is just greyed out and unresponsive... It's annoying because it's either I surrender or propse a white peace....

[Rohen]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von AfArSeMoN:

Idk if that's the same issue I'm having but I just cannot even send surrender term to the losing enemy, the button is just greyed out and unresponsive... It's annoying because it's either I surrender or propse a white peace....

yeah had the same bug...and it was against an unyielding enemy character (one who never surrenders) so he would just say no to both those options...