I can't hide my disappointment at this moment

[Polaris.]

As a 270+ hour player I have been looking forward to the Vauban Update for several days, and today I kept checking to see if it had been updated as soon as I woke up, not expecting to have the surprise of the Para Bellum Wonders Pack. Civilization® VI to recommend what could be improved in Humankind, and it was worth the effort to use my very poor English to try to communicate!
I can't deny that the Para Bellum Wonders Pack and Vauban Update is a great update that fixes many bugs and offers many new ways to play!
However, this update added a new "Territory Size" world generation option. This change makes the new maps different from the previous ones, and there is no way to put the archived maps into the map editor, so my previous maps are just null and void.
I can't hide my disappointment at this moment, I need a solution, please developers!

作為一個270+小時的玩家我已經期待Vauban Update好幾天了，今天一起床就不停看看是否已經更新了，沒想到居然還有Para Bellum Wonders Pack這個驚喜，當下我覺得我為了回答表單的問題回頭玩Sid Meier’s Civilization® VI來推薦Humankind 可以改進的地方，並努力使用我極差的英文來嘗試溝通是值得的
我無法否認Para Bellum Wonders Pack 和 Vauban Update 是一個偉大的更新，修正了許多的錯誤也提供了許多的新玩法
但這次的更新Added a new "Territory Size" world generation option 這個改動讓新的地圖與以往不相同，而目前又沒有辦法從把存檔的地圖放入地圖編輯器，所以我以往的地圖直接作廢了
我難以掩飾我此時此刻的失望，我需要解決方案，拜託開發者們

[Polaris.]

All the time I don't mind buying more DLC that I'm not interested in to show support for the production team, and I don't mind if I need to buy additional map editors at a reasonable price.But with the current situation, I should not want to open the game for a short time, unless the problem is solved, I am really depressed.

一直以來我不介意多買一些我不感興趣的DLC來支持製作組，我也不介意我是否需要以合理的價格購買額外的地圖編輯器，但以目前的狀況，我應該短時間不會想打開遊戲了，除非問題解決。

[The-Cat-o-Nine-Tales]

Hey,

thanks for reaching out. Sorry to hear your maps are incompatible. Do I understand correctly you are referring to maps created with the map editor? I'll try to follow up with our production team about fixing this.

[Polaris.]

Originally posted by The-Cat-o-Nine-Tales:

Hey,

thanks for reaching out. Sorry to hear your maps are incompatible. Do I understand correctly you are referring to maps created with the map editor? I'll try to follow up with our production team about fixing this.

No, I am using the map in the game, the seed code is 1456738099
Thank you for your reply!

[Polaris.]

Originally posted by The-Cat-o-Nine-Tales:

I do not know if the map editor can read the map of the game archive to do the editing of the new map, because every new DLC in the past will lead to a different map, and this update only led to a different map

[Polaris.]

Originally posted by The-Cat-o-Nine-Tales:

Hey, The-Cat-o-Nine-Tales is there any further news?

[The-Cat-o-Nine-Tales]

Okay, after you clarified this was about map seeds now generating different maps, I have checked with the game designers about this.
Maintaining exactly the same map generation was not a priority for us, but as far as I know we also did not make any changes to the generation process beyond allowing territoriy sizes to be modified. So if you choose the right territory settings, you may get the same results as before.
As far as the designers told me, the previous territory sizes were 40 for land territories and 100 for ocean territories. However, if your saved seeds are very old, you may need to use a land territory size of 45 instead, because one of the patches in 2022 slightly lowered the territory size.
As far as I can tell, the current preset territory size is 35, which would explain why you now get different maps than before.

I hope this will help you get the same maps you are looking for again.

[Polaris.]

Originally posted by The-Cat-o-Nine-Tales:

Okay, after you clarified this was about map seeds now generating different maps, I have checked with the game designers about this.
Maintaining exactly the same map generation was not a priority for us, but as far as I know we also did not make any changes to the generation process beyond allowing territoriy sizes to be modified. So if you choose the right territory settings, you may get the same results as before.
As far as the designers told me, the previous territory sizes were 40 for land territories and 100 for ocean territories. However, if your saved seeds are very old, you may need to use a land territory size of 45 instead, because one of the patches in 2022 slightly lowered the territory size.
As far as I can tell, the current preset territory size is 35, which would explain why you now get different maps than before.

I hope this will help you get the same maps you are looking for again.

Good morning, The-Cat-o-Nine-Tales, thank you for asking for me!
In my previous attempts, I learned that the previous territory sizes were 40 for land territories this thing, but despite the corresponding adjustments, the location of the resource points will still change, so I hope to import the map information from the archive into the map editor, or use the seed code in the map editor, and then I restore the same map myself.
In order to use the initial map, every time I buy DLC I can only choose to turn off Natural wonders/events/independent peoples, which indirectly affects the game experience, so I hope to use the seed code in the map editor to create maps, so that the community can also have more original maps available, rather than most of the world map or the world map of a particular ip.

[Polaris.]

Currently also tried rock roll version, but this makes me can not use Para Bellum Wonders Pack, and this must close other DLC content problem can not be solved
If you can't get the map editor to export the seed code, I don't mind using the expansion mod or program to export the map in the archive.
Originally I wanted to say that this time to buy all the dlc, but the current situation I bought no map to play makes me hesitant, but the development team continues to optimize the game this is worth supporting :)

[The-Cat-o-Nine-Tales]

Originally posted by Polaris.:

I hope to import the map information from the archive into the map editor, or use the seed code in the map editor, and then I restore the same map myself.

This is a feature for the map editor that's much requested and has been on our list of potential improvements for quite some time, but I'm afraid that right now I can't even guess when or even if it will arrive... Sorry for the bad news.

[Polaris.]

Originally posted by The-Cat-o-Nine-Tales:

Originally posted by Polaris.:

I hope to import the map information from the archive into the map editor, or use the seed code in the map editor, and then I restore the same map myself.

This is a feature for the map editor that's much requested and has been on our list of potential improvements for quite some time, but I'm afraid that right now I can't even guess when or even if it will arrive... Sorry for the bad news.

It seems we have no other way to get the specified map to appear in the map editor
I'm sorry to know this news, but thank you for not hiding it from the development team and for your continuous updates and efforts to solve the problem, I have confidence that you will one day improve the map editor.
Humankind can still maintain the second most hours of games in my steam, I have begun to worry, now I am more worried about the day before the arrival of my enthusiasm first disappeared, ha ha

[Polaris.]

Originally posted by The-Cat-o-Nine-Tales:

Good evening, The-Cat-o-Nine, I have a new problem. I found that the formula for gaining experience has changed, resulting in the creation of units with more experience than the upgrade limit can not be upgraded directly, you need to regain experience to upgrade, I guess it may be that the formula's algorithm was officially changed, is this inference correct? Or is this a bug?
If this inference is correct, then it will affect many mods :(