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VDmitry Aug 24, 2021 @ 3:14am
How to join Siege?
My ally city is besieged by Mongols for several turns already. I want to help them, but how can my army join the siege?

Not sure it's related to allies, would it be my own city besieged - how can I send reinforcements?
Last edited by VDmitry; Aug 24, 2021 @ 3:21am
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[FvN] Var Aug 24, 2021 @ 3:19am 
To reinforce anything you require the Organized Warfare technology.
VDmitry Aug 24, 2021 @ 3:21am 
I have it. But my army stays out of battle zone. And I don't see a way to move it inside.
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[FvN] Var Aug 24, 2021 @ 3:28am 
Thats odd.
have you tried clicking directly on the enemy stack?
Or using the city to initiate the combat and then moving your army in?
shakee Aug 24, 2021 @ 3:32am 
I believe you cannot while the attacker just maintains the siege. As defender you need to either wait until the assault or make a sortie yourself. Then, while it is your battle turn, you are able to move more armies into the battlefield as reinforcements.

Please make sure about the placement and from where the new army joins. Sometimes, some tiles are blocked.
Oldmav Aug 24, 2021 @ 3:35am 
or it's bugged, I've seen a siege last half the game before.
VDmitry Aug 24, 2021 @ 3:42am 
Originally posted by Alice | Var:
Thats odd.
have you tried clicking directly on the enemy stack?
Or using the city to initiate the combat and then moving your army in?

If my army stays adjacent to enemy besieging (so that one army is inside battle area, while my own army is adjacent to it) then clicking on it does nothing.
VDmitry Aug 24, 2021 @ 3:45am 
Originally posted by shakee:
I believe you cannot while the attacker just maintains the siege. As defender you need to either wait until the assault or make a sortie yourself. Then, while it is your battle turn, you are able to move more armies into the battlefield as reinforcements.

Please make sure about the placement and from where the new army joins. Sometimes, some tiles are blocked.

Do you mean that I can move my army to the battle zone when it's my turn in the battle itself?

I know that I can add reinforcements during my battle when it's my battle turn, but I didn't know that I can also move not participating armies into the battle zone the same time too.

If that's the case I cannot use that, because there is no battle here. There is siege maintained for some time.
Last edited by VDmitry; Aug 24, 2021 @ 3:52am
VDmitry Aug 24, 2021 @ 3:48am 
To make it more clear - I know that defenders can sortie. But how can I lift the siege by army going to help from another city. So far I don't see how it can participate, it just stays on boundary of the battle/siege zone.

The same somehow applies to any other battle which takes more than 1 game turn. But still they are limited in time. The sieges can be maintained for long.
Last edited by VDmitry; Aug 24, 2021 @ 3:49am
shakee Aug 24, 2021 @ 4:16am 
Originally posted by VDmitry:
Originally posted by shakee:
I believe you cannot while the attacker just maintains the siege. As defender you need to either wait until the assault or make a sortie yourself. Then, while it is your battle turn, you are able to move more armies into the battlefield as reinforcements.

Please make sure about the placement and from where the new army joins. Sometimes, some tiles are blocked.

Do you mean that I can move my army to the battle zone when it's my turn in the battle itself?

I know that I can add reinforcements during my battle when it's my battle turn, but I didn't know that I can also move not participating armies into the battle zone the same time too.

If that's the case I cannot use that, because there is no battle here. There is siege maintained for some time.

Yes, that's what I mean. If the battle is running you can move additional armies into the battlefield from outside as long as it is your turn in the battle. If the siege is still only maintained, make a sortie from the city, and then move armies from outside.

The movement of the new army needs to end on the very first tile of the battlefield area. Also make sure the area is suitable. Some tiles are blocked, or even cut off. Because the reinforcement point is that very tile.

Of course, the AI will likely do the same.
The Doctor Aug 24, 2021 @ 4:21am 
I saw this happen in my game earlier today. I was sieging an enemy city with one stack and I was able to enter the siege zone with a stack from a nearby city. That stack became frozen in that hex and was available as a reinforcement. I couldn't do anything with it, add units to it, withdraw etc, until I clicked Assault and resolved the combat.

As long as you haven't started the assault, both sides can add stacks to the siege. I added a couple more to see if I could and it worked. I have no idea if you can reinforce an active assault that takes more than one turn to resolve because I didn't try but while you are sieging, both sides can reinforce.

Of course, the OP wants to reinforce an ally's city that's being sieged by an enemy army and so the above might not be possible. I haven't tried to do that because I am not really that good an ally.
VDmitry Aug 24, 2021 @ 4:24am 
Thanks! So looks like it could be a problem with an AI ally. Obviously if it performs Sortie then unlikely I can realistically use it, but it doesn't do that at all.
shakee Aug 24, 2021 @ 4:38am 
Ah, sorry. I missed the ally part. I'm not sure if helping an ally is possible. But if your ally is at war, you will not go to war automatically. You get a crisis Option only though. Declaring war has to be done manually.

@The Doctor: You can reinforce an active assault on your battle turn in each of the 3 phases per round with armies from outside. Yes, that means on a subsequent turns, you can add a new army from farther away to help and play the battle on 'time'. This works for all battles.
DNLH Aug 24, 2021 @ 4:47am 
You can't enter your allies' battles, period.

Devs said during OpenDevs that they were unable to implement three(or more)way battles and didn't feel good about giving full control over army one or the other ally (and it would not be a solution if the battle was between your enemy and neutral party), so it sadly can't be done.
VDmitry Aug 24, 2021 @ 5:37am 
Ah, I see.
LEMAN_RUSS Aug 24, 2021 @ 6:27am 
Yo maybe try moveing your forces to there citys and attacking them so they have to return
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