How do you keep service staff happy?

[Taxman]

I have unlocked all three Staff now and there just doesn't seem to be any way for me to keep all three happy at the same time. I really dislike that they get upset when doing dish work and cleaning but I never get a notification of what makes them happy. I would imagine having them prepare their specialty dishes, perhaps?

But if that's the case, if I want to focus on running a steak and meat house, then am I just doomed to have Kassim and Jiro be unhappy all the time?

Anyone figure out how Staff Happiness works, perhaps?

[Great Sage Equal of Heaven]

Tearing my hair out mate

Kaseen would have been out on his arse the first night if this were a real restaurant.

[Taxman]

Originally posted by Prosecutor Godot:

Tearing my hair out mate

Kaseen would have been out on his arse the first night if this were a real restaurant.

Right? Cooking and serving on time is already a great challenge, I do not want artificial restrictions such as employee happiness to make the game harder than it should be.

The game is very fun but it also implements a lot of unfun mechanics such as this

[dandanxxiii]

Originally posted by Taxman:

I have unlocked all three Staff now and there just doesn't seem to be any way for me to keep all three happy at the same time. I really dislike that they get upset when doing dish work and cleaning but I never get a notification of what makes them happy. I would imagine having them prepare their specialty dishes, perhaps?

But if that's the case, if I want to focus on running a steak and meat house, then am I just doomed to have Kassim and Jiro be unhappy all the time?

Anyone figure out how Staff Happiness works, perhaps?

on front door before service open you can choose what their deskjob..as a cookhelper or steward, at that point you can look their mood happy or not

it not a difficult game. this mechanics is good. you just not figure it out

[Taxman]

Originally posted by dandanxxiii:

Originally posted by Taxman:

I have unlocked all three Staff now and there just doesn't seem to be any way for me to keep all three happy at the same time. I really dislike that they get upset when doing dish work and cleaning but I never get a notification of what makes them happy. I would imagine having them prepare their specialty dishes, perhaps?

But if that's the case, if I want to focus on running a steak and meat house, then am I just doomed to have Kassim and Jiro be unhappy all the time?

Anyone figure out how Staff Happiness works, perhaps?

on front door before service open you can choose what their deskjob..as a cookhelper or steward, at that point you can look their mood happy or not

it not a difficult game. this mechanics is good. you just not figure it out

I am very much aware of this, and I have over 3K money banked already and I never go below 75 on hard service, in fact I often get 100. It is not about the game being difficult or not.

This is about there being a mechanic that is near pointless as all it does is annoy the player or create a hindrance. There are some of us who want to play in an optimized manner. If there are elements of the game that are not fully explained, it becomes bothersome.

Here's a funny story, just a few services ago, I had a night where literally everyone was complaining about doing the dishes; all three chefs. So you tell me, how should I go about dealing with that efficiently?

[milkygirl]

Originally posted by dandanxxiii:

it not a difficult game. this mechanics is good. you just not figure it out

Then please enlighten me, too, oh wise one. I'm actually being serious.

I'd clean my own restaurant if it gave me the option, but it doesn't. And you get a notification every time a chef is "upset". I've only gotten as far as having Adele and Kassim. I even have a stinking rotation chart written down on a piece of paper so they are never doing the same job two days in a row.

But at least one gets upset at me every day I need one of them to clean the restaurant.

So any insights would be appreciated. :)

[eves_faith]

+1

I also don't get it. I manage to have Kassim happy, but Adele is just constantly unhappy. I do dishes myself, they both prepare food and cook during service - as I found the dish washer service to be really really slow and useless anyway - and she's still unhappy. Well, she can't prep actual meals yet so she's pretty useless in service beside doing fries or sauces. But I still let her and she's just constantly in a bad place.

[Foxxy]

It's just a useless mechanic, my people come late, which they would be fired for irl, because they are unhappy, unhappy with what? not sure because they only prep during service and they rotate cleaning the restaurant daily to keep it clean during early prep. Either this mechanic needs to go or it needs to be explained on what makes them happy.

[Joney-F]

Originally posted by milkygirl:

Originally posted by dandanxxiii:

it not a difficult game. this mechanics is good. you just not figure it out

Then please enlighten me, too, oh wise one. I'm actually being serious.

I'd clean my own restaurant if it gave me the option, but it doesn't. And you get a notification every time a chef is "upset". I've only gotten as far as having Adele and Kassim. I even have a stinking rotation chart written down on a piece of paper so they are never doing the same job two days in a row.

But at least one gets upset at me every day I need one of them to clean the restaurant.

So any insights would be appreciated. :)

nice to meet you. To tell the truth, we still only have Kasim and Adele, and Koji? does not appear. Regarding satisfaction, I haven't completely clarified this either, but I think it has something to do with responsibility. If you only order from cheap shops, your responsibility will decrease and work will be slowed down, and your team will not function. I don't know the detailed relationship, but I can read it from the codex. Also, each of them has a specific dish that they are good at, and I don't think it would be a good idea to make them cook anything other than that. I made Adele, who is good at cooking meat, only make pasta and pizza dough, but she is always angry.

All I know is that if you do the same thing two or three days in a row, you'll get mad at me. In particular, Qasim seems to have no motivation other than cooking.

However, even if the responsibility is low, the work is slow, but it will be done properly, so it is doubtful whether this system of satisfaction is really necessary. Also, because all three of them are genuine chefs, they seem to dislike washing dishes right away, but if they let them help with cooking, they will have nothing to do, and it will not be a chef life. During the service, I can't see anything other than what I put in the menu, so I don't know the new recipe, and it's already messed up.

Unfortunately, Cyanide loves the Tour de France but hates cooking.

[Joney-F]

Originally posted by Taxman:

I am very much aware of this, and I have over 3K money banked already and I never go below 75 on hard service, in fact I often get 100. It is not about the game being difficult or not.

This is about there being a mechanic that is near pointless as all it does is annoy the player or create a hindrance. There are some of us who want to play in an optimized manner. If there are elements of the game that are not fully explained, it becomes bothersome.

Here's a funny story, just a few services ago, I had a night where literally everyone was complaining about doing the dishes; all three chefs. So you tell me, how should I go about dealing with that efficiently?

There seems to be no choice but to keep the responsibility bar green by ordering from expensive shops. After that, it seems that there is no choice but to let the three of them cook their specialties instead of washing the dishes.

[-LOST- Saramae]

Order high quality ingredients from local vendors to keep your chefs happy and create a menu that consists of each of their specialties (fish, meats, vegetarian). Whoever I plan to have wash dishes either helps with making extras or early prep. The ones I plan to cook with me will clean before service. Allow them all to participate in some part of food preparation.

[Eldritch Anko]

Originally posted by Great Sage Equal of Heaven:

Tearing my hair out mate

Kaseen would have been out on his arse the first night if this were a real restaurant.

I feel this comment right now

[CK"]

You can't. It's broken. Even if you do everything right they still randomly gets upset. And even if you don't they'd get randomly happy. It just doesn't make any f*cking sense at all.

[Phoenix]

Originally posted by Joney-F:

Originally posted by Taxman:

I am very much aware of this, and I have over 3K money banked already and I never go below 75 on hard service, in fact I often get 100. It is not about the game being difficult or not.

This is about there being a mechanic that is near pointless as all it does is annoy the player or create a hindrance. There are some of us who want to play in an optimized manner. If there are elements of the game that are not fully explained, it becomes bothersome.

Here's a funny story, just a few services ago, I had a night where literally everyone was complaining about doing the dishes; all three chefs. So you tell me, how should I go about dealing with that efficiently?

There seems to be no choice but to keep the responsibility bar green by ordering from expensive shops. After that, it seems that there is no choice but to let the three of them cook their specialties instead of washing the dishes.

Which is so funny, what is this, dish washing simulator? I'd like the dish washing--if they let me clean the restaurant too, so my employees would stop complaining about doing them. I let him to only fish stuff he likes, I let her do only meat stuff. They are still, always miserable, and apparently want no one to clean the restaurant either

[enrico.andreuccetti]

Anyone found a solution for it? It’s the last achievement I’m missing and I’m getting crazy

[enrico.andreuccetti]

So, it seems there's one thing we've all been doing wrong. After more than 20 hours of research I found a recording of a game session from a user that got that trophy, and found out that the "Yes, chef" that's highlighted by the yellow background in the menu where we set what other chefs cook during service... is not yellow, but gold, and that's what brings the chef's mood back to green, even if they clock in, in the afternoon, with an orange mood. I got the trophy after only 4 services of doing this, so I want to share it with you and help you get the achievement. What I did was to set up a quick graph on a piece of paper, with the day, who came in with an orange mood, who ended up cleaning the dishes (during the service, so don't intervene on the chefs before the start of the service, no matter what), and finally if everybody's mood checked green once the service was ended.
How did I act during service?
Using a menu with just 1 vegetarian plate (choose the Stuffed Zucchini), 1 meat (Beuf Burguignon) and 1 fish (mussels with potatoes), I asked the chefs to make 3 of their own dishes and just 1 quantity of the dish linked to the chef that's either missing from service (like if they asked the day off) or cleaning the dishes. With the accessibility options active and a dining room set at the minimum you should only need 5 to 7 dishes tops to call it a day and close service.
Again, after 4 days of this, the trophy popped. Reach out to me if you have more questions...