Atelier Ryza: Ever Darkness & the Secret Hideout

Atelier Ryza: Ever Darkness & the Secret Hideout

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Faized Nov 3, 2019 @ 1:24am
Critical Finish on Flour
What's a 100% confirmed piece of [Material] that has Critical Finish that can be easily applied to Flour? I've tried getting the Maple bark / some other fuels for the last hour or two with no real luck on pulling the trait, and a quick google didn't point me left nor right.
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Flocci Nov 3, 2019 @ 2:00am 
Are traits in any way restricted by the type of item you are gathering? I have the feeling it's mainly separated by where you gathered it (i.e. materials from higher level gathering spots have higher tier traits). So it could be that the bark you're gathering is just not high enough to develop the desired trait.

That said, if you want to get something on a fuel item, Zettel has always been a good choice for me. You can make it with plants, you can make it with water, and if you reach far enough down, you can add a supplement, and those open up many many more options. Another useful way for moving traits has been the Scythe, it allows you to turn metal and lumber into ore. Ore can then be used to make a supplement or ingots.

Edit: I checked my own stash (after finishing the game) and it seems to be a fairly mid to high level trait. Almost all items I have with it are 80+ quality with at least a B-rank. The lowest I found was a cotton grass with 59 quality. I think that one must have been from the volcano.
Last edited by Flocci; Nov 3, 2019 @ 2:03am
Faized Nov 3, 2019 @ 2:35am 
Yeah, the majority of the stuff I was picking up was around 100~ quality so I figured that wouldn't be an issue. I think Zettel will work (I have a few plants with the trait I believe) so I should be good from there. Thank you. Prince is the last side quest I have to do and I didn't really want to progress further without it.
Graaf Eengat Nov 3, 2019 @ 3:58am 
When I received the quest I used an ingredient with critical finish to create honey (with added fuel atribute), and then used the honey to create the needed flour.

You might first want to check your container to see what raw ingredients you have with critical finish and see what suitable intermediate you can make out of it.
iwassnow Nov 3, 2019 @ 12:13pm 
It doesn't seem like traits are tied to items/areas like they were in previous games excluding the few special items with unique traits. As for how to get it onto an item, Zettel is probably the easiest way to get a fuel with a trait as you can cycle almost anything into a colored nuetralizer to add to it. You can even add it in on a rebuilt item.
BoneShibaSwap May 14, 2020 @ 10:44am 
what i did was synthesise Honey with Critical Finish trait.
I used the Silver Beehive with Critical Finish trait.
Along with 2 red supplements and 1 yellow supplement, add the (fuel) characteristic to the Honey.
Because Flour can be made with 1 wheat and 1 fuel, use any wheat, and use the Honey you just made.
Don't forget to select the Critical Finish trait at the end.
(1 honey can be used to make 3 flour, so you need 4 honey.
You need one silver beehive to make 3 honey.)
Aerion 'Alex' B. May 16, 2020 @ 3:53am 
I got it via the red supplement, I believe. Mostly going off filtering my full stockpile for 'Critical Finish', and then finding some way between those ingredients and the Flour requirements.
Icarium Apr 16, 2021 @ 2:57pm 
Originally posted by 76561197991965561:
what i did was synthesise Honey with Critical Finish trait.
I used the Silver Beehive with Critical Finish trait.
Along with 2 red supplements and 1 yellow supplement, add the (fuel) characteristic to the Honey.
Because Flour can be made with 1 wheat and 1 fuel, use any wheat, and use the Honey you just made.
Don't forget to select the Critical Finish trait at the end.
(1 honey can be used to make 3 flour, so you need 4 honey.
You need one silver beehive to make 3 honey.)

The recipe for flour also allows Zettle, which can have the effect of Synth Quality +1, so I used 7 Zettle for the one recipe. This obviously depends on your Alchemy level. You can also just use the duplication device on the finished product to save on the Zettle.
I can't use Honey with Flours.
Edit: Honey needs the correct element too which can put on it in crafting process.
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