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Azefa May 28, 2023 @ 4:18am
Mark of Ascendancy farm (armour upgrade material)
Maybe I missing something and there is faster way to farm these or just run all dungeons on Northern Kingoms map, sleep, repeat?
To upgrage a single piece of armour to level 3 you need 250 of them, when a single Trial (120%) or even 5+ waves in Frozen temple will give you 2-3 at best, which sounds like HUGE time investment for very little upgrade. It is too much compared to any other type of weapon/armor upgrade
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Lilbabycat May 28, 2023 @ 5:22am 
how about the expeditions? whats their drop rate?
Koumori May 28, 2023 @ 6:23am 
I also couldn't find a good way to farm them in a realistic time frame so, I must confess, I ended up just editing my save file.

Originally posted by Lilbabycat:
how about the expeditions? whats their drop rate?
Expeditions are terrible for marks of ascendancy; you only get a few shards.
Azefa May 29, 2023 @ 12:38am 
Originally posted by Koumori:
I also couldn't find a good way to farm them in a realistic time frame so, I must confess, I ended up just editing my save file.

Originally posted by Lilbabycat:
how about the expeditions? whats their drop rate?
Expeditions are terrible for marks of ascendancy; you only get a few shards.
I know that we can edit character stats, gold and even skillpoints, but how to add a certain item? I couldn't find an exact sting for it
Koumori May 29, 2023 @ 3:09am 
Originally posted by Azefa:
I know that we can edit character stats, gold and even skillpoints, but how to add a certain item? I couldn't find an exact sting for it
Mark of ascendancy is 8+51, Elaborate crystall [sic] of ascendancy is 8+52, and Sublime orb of ascendancy is, for some reason, 3+154.
Desperado May 29, 2023 @ 6:31am 
Originally posted by Lilbabycat:
how about the expeditions? whats their drop rate?
Sometimes you get 1~3 shards, usually from "higher difficulty" expeditions. I rarely get any shards from the normal difficulty expeditions.

The best way to get ascend crystals is the frozen temple. On my templar I got to wave 11 and the chest gave me 8 marks of ascendancy. It was about 25 minutes of constant fighting to get that far. Success in frozen temple varies wildly by build though.
Azefa May 29, 2023 @ 8:27am 
Originally posted by Koumori:
Originally posted by Azefa:
I know that we can edit character stats, gold and even skillpoints, but how to add a certain item? I couldn't find an exact sting for it
Mark of ascendancy is 8+51, Elaborate crystall [sic] of ascendancy is 8+52, and Sublime orb of ascendancy is, for some reason, 3+154.
Thank you!
Oleg Kazakov  [developer] May 29, 2023 @ 7:36pm 
I will probably add a way to get additional marks in the next small patch
Desperado May 29, 2023 @ 8:03pm 
Originally posted by Oleg Kazakov:
I will probably add a way to get additional marks in the next small patch
Maybe trade in research notes? I think you get experience for turning in more after opening the yellow portal but you're already at level cap by then.
Oleg Kazakov  [developer] May 29, 2023 @ 9:40pm 
Originally posted by Desperado:
Originally posted by Oleg Kazakov:
I will probably add a way to get additional marks in the next small patch
Maybe trade in research notes? I think you get experience for turning in more after opening the yellow portal but you're already at level cap by then.
That's a good idea
Azefa May 30, 2023 @ 2:22am 
Originally posted by Oleg Kazakov:
I will probably add a way to get additional marks in the next small patch
Thank you for your approach to the community! I also have a suggestion to consider. Maybe it would be good to shorten the dungeon/world event respawn time in Northern Kingdoms. I currently trying to obtain jewelry sets(spent hours and hours farming and still cant get 2 fishy rings) to test builds, which is again farmed in dungeons mostly and I manage to clear 'em all in 30-40 minutes or so, and then I have to wait 1+ hour, because I have nothing more to do since I upgraded my skills high enough with runes
Last edited by Azefa; May 30, 2023 @ 2:24am
Azefa May 30, 2023 @ 2:29am 
Originally posted by Desperado:
Originally posted by Lilbabycat:
how about the expeditions? whats their drop rate?
Sometimes you get 1~3 shards, usually from "higher difficulty" expeditions. I rarely get any shards from the normal difficulty expeditions.

The best way to get ascend crystals is the frozen temple. On my templar I got to wave 11 and the chest gave me 8 marks of ascendancy. It was about 25 minutes of constant fighting to get that far. Success in frozen temple varies wildly by build though.
What difficulty settings are you playing on?
I've made templar recently and beaten wave 7 on 100% character damage/100% monster damage difficulty level. Wave 8 mobs oneshotted me.
Last edited by Azefa; May 30, 2023 @ 2:40am
Koumori May 30, 2023 @ 4:41am 
Originally posted by Azefa:
I've made templar recently and beaten wave 7 on 100% character damage/100% monster damage difficulty level. Wave 8 mobs oneshotted me.
This is going to sound like a sassy "git gud" response, but genuinely... don't get hit. I've reached wave 10-11 on a few different builds (on normal difficulty settings) and even the tankiest of them couldn't take more than a couple of hits from the enemies in the later waves. Dodging or blocking every attack becomes a necessity.
Last edited by Koumori; May 30, 2023 @ 4:41am
Desperado May 30, 2023 @ 6:42am 
Originally posted by Azefa:
Originally posted by Desperado:
What difficulty settings are you playing on?
I've made templar recently and beaten wave 7 on 100% character damage/100% monster damage difficulty level. Wave 8 mobs oneshotted me.

Originally posted by Koumori:
This is going to sound like a sassy "git gud" response, but genuinely... don't get hit. I've reached wave 10-11 on a few different builds (on normal difficulty settings) and even the tankiest of them couldn't take more than a couple of hits from the enemies in the later waves. Dodging or blocking every attack becomes a necessity.

I don't change the difficulty settings. Koumori is right, you only have three options for surviving 8+ waves: don't get hit to begin with, have invincibility, or die. Doesn't matter if you're wearing heavy armor or cloth armor.

I don't know the exact point, but there's a threshold for how buffed the enemies get versus max possible hp and defense where having a fully optimized defense character compared to a low hp, low defense cloth mage both get 1hko so it wouldn't matter.

You could try the new defense options like the enduring armor set, but you'd be giving up a lot of offense which means a lot more time for enemies to try to hit you.
Last edited by Desperado; May 30, 2023 @ 6:42am
Azefa May 30, 2023 @ 8:31am 
Originally posted by Desperado:
Originally posted by Azefa:



I don't change the difficulty settings. Koumori is right, you only have three options for surviving 8+ waves: don't get hit to begin with, have invincibility, or die. Doesn't matter if you're wearing heavy armor or cloth armor.

I don't know the exact point, but there's a threshold for how buffed the enemies get versus max possible hp and defense where having a fully optimized defense character compared to a low hp, low defense cloth mage both get 1hko so it wouldn't matter.

You could try the new defense options like the enduring armor set, but you'd be giving up a lot of offense which means a lot more time for enemies to try to hit you.

Currently I'm playing a pure physical melee character, so I have to stay close to deal damage. I've tried to use 3 piece Spear focused set + 2 pieces of Crusher set for 3 sec invulnerability after whirlwind, but I think its bugged or I missing something, because I stay invulnerable for like 1 second, and then damage goes again. Maybe I just should go some magic/ranged build to push it further with more ease.
Desperado May 30, 2023 @ 8:51am 
Originally posted by Azefa:
Currently I'm playing a pure physical melee character, so I have to stay close to deal damage. I've tried to use 3 piece Spear focused set + 2 pieces of Crusher set for 3 sec invulnerability after whirlwind, but I think its bugged or I missing something, because I stay invulnerable for like 1 second, and then damage goes again. Maybe I just should go some magic/ranged build to push it further with more ease.

Skirmisher mainly uses throw weapon with the runic forge upgrade to throw a weapon all enemies within a limited range. I think the 5 set bonuses for skirmisher are bugged and don't work, which is really unfortunate.

Crusher's whirlwind invincibility says 3 seconds but I think it's actually based on the duration of whirlwind, and using whirlwind with a spear has a much shorter duration with a single little swing.

Skirmisher and crusher aren't really compatible playstyles. With skirmisher you're doing a lot of hit and run, with crusher you stay and fight. They're both pretty compatible with northern warrior 2 set bonus for stacking a melee buff.
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Date Posted: May 28, 2023 @ 4:18am
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