I want Nier Daddy not Onii-Chan

[Hamburglur]

Also ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ what in the world made you think this should be $60?

[Redblaze27]

Taro didnt say that, someone else proposed the idea.

[Late Game Wonder]

"He didn't say that"

He literally created that even if he had not said that explicitly about the storyline

[Amygdala]

Originally posted by Ogami:

In the end the creator of the game does not give a flying ♥♥♥♥ about Papa Nier so who cares.

Yoko Taro says in interviews that he's a fan of both lol. Just because Father was a creation of interference doesn't mean he can't like him, or creators wouldn't enjoy half of their work due to publishers.
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The story seems to be that both occur, Gestalt's intro, Replicant's intro, Gestalt, Replicant. They both happen in the timeline, with Gestalt happening before. Gestalt ends with Ending C, Replicant with D -> E.

No idea how, but judging by the fact they're both mentioned, and the years they take place according to the games, that's how both existing is resolved. I think an interview also discussed this?

[Mako]

Originally posted by Amygdala:

The story seems to be that both occur, Gestalt's intro, Replicant's intro, Gestalt, Replicant. They both happen in the timeline, with Gestalt happening before. Gestalt ends with Ending C, Replicant with D -> E.

If those games are in the same timeline then canon ending for dad Nier should be him failing early. Probably before even finding Weiss or at least before entering Shadowlord castle. Even assuming there is some kind of time loop similar to Automata. If he kills original gestalt its over. If he gets to the castle and loses to original or twins then original becomes human again. Either way project Gestalt ends right here and there can be no brother Nier replicant anymore.
But I doubt there is a time loop. Original Nier ran off and abandoned project shorly before game's start. Thats what accelerated the rate of relapses, and increased the ammount of shades. Initially twins didnt know where he ran off to (confirmed in-game by additional cutscenes in route C), thats why they worked with replicant Nier at first. There is just way too much stuff needed to be reset in each loop. Not just replicants and their observing androids but also all those relapsed gestalts.
The only logical explanation for both games co-existance is multiple timelines.

[Hex]

Mods help. Get PapaNier and you can play as any version of Nier you want. (including Kaine but she's more for fun, don't use her on a serious playthrough.)

[Yoinkyz]

ye just dont support the game like you didnt support at launch. at least i still bought the game and i want papa nier too

[Cpt.P1mp]

Originally posted by Ebon Wolf:

It's 60 because Square Enix and they rehauled the combat.

they rehauled the players combat, but the AI is just as weak. So now they are even weaker.
My gripe with the game is that i gotta play it on hard to even feel like its not just a cakewalk.

[Fantabulous Fencer]

Frankly I wouldn't have spent one cent on that Ogre. He is good only for that recycled dump with the remix banging in the background.

[LuckySlevin7]

Do they include Papa Nier already? I will only give them 60€ when they import him. Cant stand that androgynous boy! For me its the Father saving his daughter and not the brother, sister thing. They should gave everybody the choice for that full price remake!

[gaun217]

That's where the beauty of PC gaming comes in. We have a mod that loads in Daddy Nier rather than any of the three variations of Bro Nier during gameplay and 2 mods that inserts voice acting from the original. The only thing that's missing is the cutscene model that Goshante is working on. https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/840706475583733800/841973440319455232/image0.jpg

[Commander Hitman2b]

the model of daddy nier is already in the game just a modder have to import the thing but you won't get daddy dialogue

[tokki.]

As someone who never had an older brother (or even a father) growing up, I prefer brother Nier because of how hot he is. i wouldn't bleep my dad but like, if i was in Yonah's shoes, and this was your average anime trope, you know what's up.

And brother Nier is hot, okay. I enjoy looking at hot guys. This is a W for me.

[Commander Hitman2b]

Originally posted by shiro.:

As someone who never had an older brother (or even a father) growing up, I prefer brother Nier because of how hot he is. i wouldn't bleep my dad but like, if i was in Yonah's shoes, and this was your average anime trope, you know what's up.

And brother Nier is hot, okay. I enjoy looking at hot guys. This is a W for me.

understandable i am a sole son and yes i did wish to have a sister but it's a bit to late for that

[LuckySlevin7]

Originally posted by gaun217:

That's where the beauty of PC gaming comes in. We have a mod that loads in Daddy Nier rather than any of the three variations of Bro Nier during gameplay and 2 mods that inserts voice acting from the original. The only thing that's missing is the cutscene model that Goshante is working on. https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/840706475583733800/841973440319455232/image0.jpg

That Picture look utterly disturbing and not like the original and if the cutscence´s are without the Dad its pointless!!! They should do the work right for that price.

[Ogami]

Originally posted by LuckySlevin7:

That Picture look utterly disturbing and not like the original and if the cutscence´s are without the Dad its pointless!!! They should do the work right for that price.

But Replicant is not Gestalt, they are not the same games.
They are not even set in the same time, Gestalt is set 100 years earlier then Replicant and Yonah in Gestalt is a few years younger.

Yoko Taro said multiple times that ONLY the Replicant timeline leads to Nier Automata.
And the whole point of this remaster was to connect the two games more and to include the new final ending "E" that was also written ONLY for the brother.

Papa Nier just does not work with the story Taro wants to tell for this remaster and for the connection to Automata.
Thats all there is to it.

The orginal Gestalt still exists, you can play that if you want Papa Nier.
But for the modern games and the remaster, only brother Nier is the canon.