Is it a nightmare to get all achievements in Nier Replicant?

[Suffocation]

I’ve just completed Nier Automata’s achievements and it felt repetitive and grindy but I want more Nier styled games.
But I’ve heard that it’s way harder in Nier replicant.
Thoughts?

[Suffocation]

引用自 Sherv™：

.

I did finish the game with all the achievements and I must say it’s one of the most boring and repetitive games I have ever played, even when it came to the combat it felt very weak and boring.
it did play on my emotion when it came to Emil but that’s about it.
The story is good but there is not a single reason why I have to finish the second walkthrough 3 times and replaying the first walkthrough again to see the endings where theres nothing new except for few cut scenes, it felt like a scam.

[Cyber Von Cyberus]

One thing to note about the achievements that involve killing a boss within a time limit: Getting the achievement for the lowest time (30 seconds or 1 and half minutes) will not give you all of the achievements for the higher clear times and you'll have to redo it again to get them.

[Draaloff]

引用自 Suffocation：

I’ve just completed Nier Automata’s achievements and it felt repetitive and grindy but I want more Nier styled games.
But I’ve heard that it’s way harder in Nier replicant.
Thoughts?

Yes, it's much worse:

• You have to play the entirety of the second half of the game 4 times
  
• You have to play the majority of the first half of the game twice
  
• You must collect and fully upgrade all 33 weapons
  It takes an insane amount of time to grind the materials for this
  
• You must complete a set of combat challenges called "Recycled World"
  
• You must crossbreed flowers to produce a Lunar Tear
  This uses the real-time clock and RNG. This takes many days, and your seeds will despawn if you do not collect them on the (real world) day that they drop
  
• You must catch every type of fish
  
• You must get ending A in 15 minutes
  Cutscenes and pausing the game do not stop the timer, and you must start a new save file if you miss this achievement
  
• You must defeat every boss within a time limit
  Cutscenes and pausing the game do not stop the timer, and you must start a new save file if you miss any achievements in the first half of the game

[izutsumii]

引用自 Draaloff：

引用自 Suffocation：

I’ve just completed Nier Automata’s achievements and it felt repetitive and grindy but I want more Nier styled games.
But I’ve heard that it’s way harder in Nier replicant.
Thoughts?

Yes, it's much worse:

• You have to play the entirety of the second half of the game 4 times
  
• You have to play the majority of the first half of the game twice
  
• You must collect and fully upgrade all 33 weapons
  It takes an insane amount of time to grind the materials for this
  
• You must complete a set of combat challenges called "Recycled World"
  
• You must crossbreed flowers to produce a Lunar Tear
  This uses the real-time clock and RNG. This takes many days, and your seeds will despawn if you do not collect them on the (real world) day that they drop
  
• You must catch every type of fish
  
• You must get ending A in 15 minutes
  Cutscenes and pausing the game do not stop the timer, and you must start a new save file if you miss this achievement
  
• You must defeat every boss within a time limit
  Cutscenes and pausing the game do not stop the timer, and you must start a new save file if you miss any achievements in the first half of the game

Most of this applies to automata too, though.(Ah sorry, mainly the first 3 points you made, and fishing,) And the timed bosses are far from hard by the time you've ran through them three times. IF we're being real, automata is almost harder if you AREN'T buying the achievements. I've 100% both on ps4 and its really not that harder for replicant. The BIGGEST time sink is farming materials for the weapons in replicant, but I spent the same amount of time in automata for various other achievements. So I'd say they're about the same. Replicant is rather average difficulty levels for 100%ing a jrpg. Took me 60 hours I think

[Draaloff]

I missed a couple of points, but they are in my updated review:
https://steamcommunity.com/id/draaloff/recommended/1113560/

[izutsumii]

引用自 Draaloff：

I missed a couple of points, but they are in my updated review:
https://steamcommunity.com/id/draaloff/recommended/1113560/

I feel like much of this comes down to it being more difficult on your end due to not enjoying the game though, no? Which is fine. But I will say. you have to play it once blind, 2 repeats (not three unless you majorly mess up) and they're part of the story, so if you're playing through normally they're achievements you get naturally. I don't even count them as "achievement hunting" tbh. Think it took me 30 hours to get to ending D? Just talking literally, automata is more of an actual timesink. If you are ENJOYING the game, the actual achievements are a bit quicker to get in replicant. And if you aren't enjoying it, I really dont see why people would be 100%ing it but that's just me

The most annoying achievements in replicant really come down to upgrading weapons, and the flower. Fishing wasnt too hard nor did it take me long to get through but I can see it being a chore for some. Upgrading weapons by far the biggest offender for grinding for, the factory haunts me after running through it 30 times.

Anyways, in terms of 100%ing, for a JRPG this is EASY street. Comparing it to automata though, theyre about the same. Both have some pretty bothersome achievements. I have maybe 200 hours into each over the years, as I've replayed them twice, and enjoy both games equally. I try to give unbiased information here so people know what to expect.

[Suffocation]

引用自 izutsumii：

automata is almost harder

I did complete Nier Automata without buying any achievements. and it was not even as close to how grindy Replicant is!

This game is a grind RNG nightmare, and not in a fun way either.
You really get no additional content when replaying the same route again except for new cut-scenes which is ridiculous.
In Automata even tho you have to play as 9s in the same boss route, it felt like a new experience since he was doing a lot behind the scenes.

引用自 Draaloff：

Yes, it's much worse

You're so on point,
You missed where you have to accumulate 1 Million gold (?? like literally why) and beat the game in less than 15 hours, if missed you have to start from a new save file.

[Draaloff]

引用自 izutsumii：

I feel like much of this comes down to it being more difficult on your end due to not enjoying the game though, no?

I dropped it multiple times over multiple months because of the routes being near identical.

Route A is Route A.
Route B is part 2 of Route A with shade voices.
Route C is Route B with a different end to Louise's boss fight and the true final boss.
Route D is Route C, but you press "yes" instead of "no" after the final boss.

Route E is it's own thing, but you have to replay the first half of Route A.

You get some extra story (in the form of visual novels), but everything else is identical.

[Suffocation]

引用自 izutsumii：

Comparing it to automata though, theyre about the same.

You might be right one this one, but don't forget that most of the time you are doing mainline story in Automata and not replaying the same story over and over...

But saying that Automata is a timesink..??? That's utterly insane my man. Just the weapon upgrading achievement in its self needs a full time job, let along the 1M gold and the lunar tear, I will also include the fishing because it was boring af.

[Suffocation]

引用自 Draaloff：

Route E is it's own thing, but you have to replay the first half of Route A.

Replaying the first half really pissed me off, its really slow and boring on it's own and there is no reason for it to be there.

[izutsumii]

引用自 Suffocation：

引用自 izutsumii：

I did complete Nier Automata without buying any achievements. and it was not even as close to how grindy Replicant is!

This game is a grind RNG nightmare, and not in a fun way either.
You really get no additional content when replaying the same route again except for new cut-scenes which is ridiculous.
In Automata even tho you have to play as 9s in the same boss route, it felt like a new experience since he was doing a lot behind the scenes.



You're so on point,
You missed where you have to accumulate 1 Million gold (?? like literally why) and beat the game in less than 15 hours, if missed you have to start from a new save file.

the gold is easy if you find the right information early enough before you level up weapons, you can sell all the parts you grind for and reload after lol, its mainly the grind that's hard. and yes, the RNG WILL screw you while you grind. I did say the weapon one was the worst.

Anyways, replaying the game comes down to how much you enjoyed the game. You asked about the achievements in particular and in MY head, I was measuring time spent. Replicant took me half the time Automata took me, so to me, personally, its easier.

[izutsumii]

引用自 Suffocation：

引用自 izutsumii：

Comparing it to automata though, theyre about the same.

You might be right one this one, but don't forget that most of the time you are doing mainline story in Automata and not replaying the same story over and over...

But saying that Automata is a timesink..??? That's utterly insane my man. Just the weapon upgrading achievement in its self needs a full time job, let along the 1M gold and the lunar tear, I will also include the fishing because it was boring af.

Ehhh, I was watching guides and it took me like 12 hours to get my weapons maxed. Which I spent on leveling to 100 in automata so it levels out to me :P

[Suffocation]

引用自 izutsumii：

Ehhh, I was watching guides and it took me like 12 hours to get my weapons maxed. Which I spent on leveling to 100 in automata so it levels out to me :P

You really spent 12 hours grinding for a single achievement and see nothing wrong with it?

also there is multiple ways to level up fast in Automata, the bunny method pushed me all the way to 100 and took max 30 min.

[Draaloff]

引用自 Suffocation：

don't forget that most of the time you are doing mainline story in Automata and not replaying the same story over and over...

Indeed. The closest thing in Automata is routes A and B, which run parallel to each other and follow different characters on the same journey.

[izutsumii]

引用自 Draaloff：

引用自 izutsumii：

I feel like much of this comes down to it being more difficult on your end due to not enjoying the game though, no?

I dropped it multiple times over multiple months because of the routes being near identical.

Route A is Route A.
Route B is part 2 of Route A with shade voices.
Route C is Route B with a different end to Louise's boss fight and the true final boss.
Route D is Route C, but you press "yes" instead of "no" after the final boss.

Route E is it's own thing, but you have to replay the first half of Route A.

You get some extra story (in the form of visual novels), but everything else is identical.

Route A-D is part of the MAIN story of replicant though, and that's just a problem you have with the story. It's a story achievement and therefore Not Hard in of itself. The GAME itself, is yes, repetitive as hell. But that wasnt asked here. Just about achievement difficulty