DAD mode please

[percolator fish]

No dad, no buy.

[Ogami]

Publicado originalmente por Scheneighnay:

And E isn't the ending leading to Automata, judging by Emil.
D is because iirc Yoko Taro said Brother Nier would choose D while Father Nier would choose C, and we know Replicant is the canon leading to Automata and not Gestalt.

D ALWAYS leads to E.
E was the canon ending for Replicant since 2012.
They could not release it in the original game as planed because of money and time constraints but ending E was released in 2012 in the " Grimoire Nier"compendium as a short story and was always the "true end" to Replicant.

Its just now the first time in the game. And of course E leads into Automata.
The administrators collect the Kaine combat data during E and create YoRHa and the combat androids from it.
Thats why the androids in Automata have Kaine´s fighting style and some even huge parts of her personality, strongest in the prototype series like A2.

[TheSeek]

Publicado originalmente por Ogami:

The administrators collect the Kaine combat data during E and create YoRHa and the combat androids from it.

The administrators did not create neither the androids neither YoRHa.

Publicado originalmente por Ogami:

Thats why the androids in Automata have Kaine´s fighting style and some even huge parts of her personality, strongest in the prototype series like A2.

They simply fight with swords(and not even all of them), they do not have Kainé's fighting style.
And the thing about Kainé's personality being used as base for A2 is literally false, especially since A2's personality was initially completely different, it's only after the Pearl Harbor Descent that she becomes the cold/harsh one we see in the game.

While the rest is correct(about E always happening after D and that E has always been a thing that does lead to Automata), let's not push headcanons and speculations as facts.

[omegaphantom]

I agree, I want Papa Nier to be playable for the story. So hopefully in the future they will release of Update Gestalt even if the sells has not reach 2.5 million.

[Ogami]

Publicado originalmente por omegaphantom:

I agree, I want Papa Nier to be playable for the story. So hopefully in the future they will release of Update Gestalt even if the sells has not reach 2.5 million.

Does not look very good. Today they announced that Automata sold 6 million copies so far, Replicant barely 1 million.

To reach half the Automata sales it would take quiet a bit and , Taro and the Nier team are already working on their next game.
I am pretty sure the " if Replicant sells half as many copies as Automata we may consider a Papa Nier DLC" was a joke anyway.
If you see the original stream where it was said both are laughing when saying that and it was never ever mentioned again after that.


So i see the chances of a official Papa Nier DLC as basically zero.

[TheSeek]

Publicado originalmente por Ogami:

Does not look very good. Today they announced that Automata sold 6 million copies so far, Replicant barely 1 million.

To reach half the Automata sales it would take quiet a bit and , Taro and the Nier team are already working on their next game.
I am pretty sure the " if Replicant sells half as many copies as Automata we may consider a Papa Nier DLC" was a joke anyway.
If you see the original stream where it was said both are laughing when saying that and it was never ever mentioned again after that.

Taking aside the fact that yes, that was indeed a joke and Saito itself concluded the answer with "don't count on it though", Replicant selling 1 million isn't exactly "not very good", it's actually very good: Automata released on February 23rd 2017, and by May 2017, 3 months later, it sold 1.5 million copies, while Replicant released on April 23rd 2021, and now as of May 2021, 2 months later, it sold 1 million copies, which means that Replicant is literally selling as much as Automata did when it released, it's having the same success in terms of sales, so it's definitely very good.

[Ogami]

Yeah , i did not mean it in a " Replicant did sell bad" knd of way ,just in relation to the " if Replicant sells half of Automata numbers we will consider a Dad DLC".
A lot of users seem to take that stream answer for full value and that a Dad DLC is just a matter of time.

Thats what i meant with "not looking good".

For Replicant itself 1 mil sales are more then good, its just a remaster and thats already nearly double the lifetime sales of the original game .

[omegaphantom]

Publicado originalmente por Ogami:

Publicado originalmente por omegaphantom:

I agree, I want Papa Nier to be playable for the story. So hopefully in the future they will release of Update Gestalt even if the sells has not reach 2.5 million.

Does not look very good. Today they announced that Automata sold 6 million copies so far, Replicant barely 1 million.

To reach half the Automata sales it would take quiet a bit and , Taro and the Nier team are already working on their next game.
I am pretty sure the " if Replicant sells half as many copies as Automata we may consider a Papa Nier DLC" was a joke anyway.
If you see the original stream where it was said both are laughing when saying that and it was never ever mentioned again after that.


So i see the chances of a official Papa Nier DLC as basically zero.

Maybe but even so, I'm still gonna hope for a Papa Nier DLC in the later future. I know both Taro may sound like it was joke and said saying "Don't count on it" but you know Taro, he like to troll people so you can never take him at his words.

[[{******---Dead4Life---******}]]

Daddy is here in the game, just look deeper you can find daddy.

[Chad "The King" ThunderCuck]

Publicado originalmente por MonkeyBone:

Publicado originalmente por Infected Shogun:

I agree, the story is way more powerful with old man nier.

Absurd. Brother or Father it's no less powerful if she's a sibling or a daughter. Although I will say with far too many games needing a father/child hook these days, a sibling focused one is an absolute breath of fresh air.

actually, the story is slightly different depending on which version youre playing, and papa nier seems like an actual father, while brutha nier feels like a sistercon pedo. honestly, its what made me put the game down.

[RIGATONI ✯]

Publicado originalmente por Chad "The King" Thundercock:

Publicado originalmente por MonkeyBone:

Absurd. Brother or Father it's no less powerful if she's a sibling or a daughter. Although I will say with far too many games needing a father/child hook these days, a sibling focused one is an absolute breath of fresh air.

actually, the story is slightly different depending on which version youre playing, and papa nier seems like an actual father, while brutha nier feels like a sistercon pedo. honestly, its what made me put the game down.

Yeah. I agree with you 100% I also thought the relationship between brother nier and his sister was kind of weird, as well. It's kind of weird. thinking about it in a way. This is why I prefer father nier in a way. And like you said, it's like he's an actual father.

[13LACK ORDER]

Father nier won't happen get over it. even if by some miracle he will at most it would be only costume/skin and nothing more

The ending E which is the canon ending lead to Automata made with brother Nier in mind and Brother Nier was always the canon version

[RIGATONI ✯]

Publicado originalmente por Mad Mask:

Father nier won't happen get over it. even if by some miracle he will at most it would be only costume/skin and nothing more

The ending E which is the canon ending lead to Automata made with brother Nier in mind and Brother Nier was always the canon version

I know. I was just pointing it out ive been over it for awhile lol. and yes i am aware about ending E

[ディアナ・サマ]

Publicado originalmente por Mad Mask:

Father nier won't happen get over it. even if by some miracle he will at most it would be only costume/skin and nothing more

The ending E which is the canon ending lead to Automata made with brother Nier in mind and Brother Nier was always the canon version

They are both "Canon". Papa NieR cycle ends at ending C or D at 3361-3366.
Brother NieR cycle ends at ending E at
3465-3473.

[omegaphantom]

Both Brother and Father are canon to the story. I think Papa Nier having ending E could still work, though I think Papa Nier will get reconstructed as he was back when he first found the memory tree, so he will lose the mask/eye-patch and be a few years younger.

[Ogami]

Publicado originalmente por omegaphantom:

Both Brother and Father are canon to the story. I think Papa Nier having ending E could still work, though I think Papa Nier will get reconstructed as he was back when he first found the memory tree, so he will lose the mask/eye-patch and be a few years younger.

You realize that ending E has existed for 10 years in form of a short story?
And ONLY ever had the brother?
And that Yoko Taro said the story was only written for the brother because the brother is the only one who would choose ending D which leads to E while the father would choose C, making that timeline a dead end which does not lead to Automata.

You can hope as much as you want but there wont be any Papa Nier DLC and definitely no Papa Nier in ending E.