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sammwich 2021 年 7 月 11 日 下午 11:16
Kaine is intersex?
I have finished A-D and saw, while look at a guide for a side quest, that Kaine is intersex. But she has a camel toe and breasts? I was confused in the memory sequences when it was revealed that she was bullied for being different even before she was possessed. Is this something that was changed from the original?

I was especially surprised, because I thought Emil (at least post-transformation) might be transgender due to his lines just before Fyra and the King's wedding, which would make sense since he merged with his sister's body.
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Daddy Kaneki 2022 年 4 月 1 日 下午 11:34 
Can I get some sources on Kaine stating or implying that there is "more" to her than meets the eye? Or clips of other characters mocking her for it? The only thing that I personally remember from playing the game is people ostracizing her from the Windmill Village although not because she's hermaphroditic, they said "she'll bring ruin to us"

Going purely based off of visual appearance there is no simple way to tell that Kaine has male genitalia in her base skin.
最後修改者:Daddy Kaneki; 2022 年 4 月 1 日 下午 11:35
Cloud McFox 2022 年 4 月 4 日 上午 11:34 
引用自 Vholran Igniseri
Can I get some sources on Kaine stating or implying that there is "more" to her than meets the eye? Or clips of other characters mocking her for it? The only thing that I personally remember from playing the game is people ostracizing her from the Windmill Village although not because she's hermaphroditic, they said "she'll bring ruin to us"

Going purely based off of visual appearance there is no simple way to tell that Kaine has male genitalia in her base skin.
It's written in Grimoire Nier, the Japanese book containing various extra Nier stories and an entire interview with Yoko Taro and the scenario writer. There is a fan translation in form of a google doc you can find.

In the book there are short profiles on in-game characters containing their general characteristics: gender, age, height, eye color etc. In there Kaine is marked as "Hermaphrodite". And in the interview Yoko Taro explains why they decided to do it. (long story short: it was his intention to do this with Kaine in a way that the player will never be 100% sure about it, so you are proof that he succeeded, really)
Daddy Kaneki 2022 年 4 月 4 日 下午 5:46 
引用自 Cloud McFox
引用自 Vholran Igniseri
Can I get some sources on Kaine stating or implying that there is "more" to her than meets the eye? Or clips of other characters mocking her for it? The only thing that I personally remember from playing the game is people ostracizing her from the Windmill Village although not because she's hermaphroditic, they said "she'll bring ruin to us"

Going purely based off of visual appearance there is no simple way to tell that Kaine has male genitalia in her base skin.
It's written in Grimoire Nier, the Japanese book containing various extra Nier stories and an entire interview with Yoko Taro and the scenario writer. There is a fan translation in form of a google doc you can find.

In the book there are short profiles on in-game characters containing their general characteristics: gender, age, height, eye color etc. In there Kaine is marked as "Hermaphrodite". And in the interview Yoko Taro explains why they decided to do it. (long story short: it was his intention to do this with Kaine in a way that the player will never be 100% sure about it, so you are proof that he succeeded, really)
I was 100% sure that she was fully female, my certainty was not affected at all until this thread
Deus Vult 2022 年 4 月 8 日 上午 6:08 
引用自 Vholran Igniseri
Well, yeah, biologically you're correct, but you were extending it to social structure and that wasn't correct. People CAN define their own identity and you don't have a say in what they choose to be. It's their transdimensional Mind that we all have. We have the right to choose who we want to become and to build ourselves up to that point. Nobody can take that away from anyone else.

One can absolutely make a claim to be whoever they want to be. The biological aspect of it doesn't matter. Our *identities* as a *consciousness* are not tied to the type of body that we have. Humans are not so cut and dry.

You repeatedly stating that you had dysphoria doesn't mean anything in regards to the topic at hand. You aren't more "credible" just because of it. The claims you're making aren't any more correct just because of it.

By saying "yeah but you're BIOLOGICALLY a guy" you are attempting to remove someone's control over their personal identity. That's a devilish thing to do, it's a very physical-focused thing. I'll leave it at that.
Bruh you got some issues, seek help.
Tetsuya_Kurogane 2022 年 4 月 8 日 下午 4:18 
Her grandma made it very clear. '' She is my daugther.'' and '' You grown to be a beautiful woman, Kainé.''
It didn't had to be explicitely stated, which is the correct way to handle gender issue, but their past story would make you understand that she was ostracized long before merging with a shade. Except that her swwet grandma brought stability in Kainé's life and raised them with all the support and love a parent can have.
While there was an irregularity in the cloning/birth, Kainé does seems to consider themselves a full woman. Anyone who say otherwise can... well, Kainé can very well tell you just how much $#*% to eat.
medion_no 2022 年 4 月 12 日 下午 7:14 
Apart from Yoko Taro interviews she mentions it at the campfire with Emil. It is mentioned again in her written stories: (something in the line of:"-Do you still think you're a girl?") and she also has a bulge in her alternate outfits.
She only became a shadow long after she was banished from her village and the whole reason to be bullied was that she had a "freak body".
In the original game it was much clearer, in her base 3d model she got what clearly looked like a male reproductive organ. On this occasion both her chest and this have been toned down but it's still there. I don't know what more proof you need.
These will always be controversial parts of Nier lore like the brother prostituted himself in seaside town but they are real and part of the novels and canon.
BEOWULF 2022 年 4 月 22 日 上午 7:58 
There is no "bulge" on her. Go get your eyes checked.
Daddy Kaneki 2022 年 4 月 22 日 上午 10:40 
引用自 Slayer of Demons
There is no "bulge" on her. Go get your eyes checked.
Thank you.
medion_no 2022 年 4 月 22 日 下午 6:53 
引用自 Slayer of Demons
There is no "bulge" on her. Go get your eyes checked.

"There was a time when men were kind
When their voices were soft
And their words inviting
There was a time when love was blind
And the world was a song
And the song was exciting
There was a time
Then it all went wrong
I dreamed a dream in times gone by
When hope was high and life worth living
I dreamed, that love would never die
I dreamed that God would be forgiving
Then I was young and unafraid
And dreams were made and used and wasted
There was no ransom to be paid
No song unsung, no wine untasted
But the tigers come at night
With their voices soft as thunder
As they tear your hope apart
As they turn your dream to shame
He slept a summer by my side
He filled my days with endless wonder
He took my childhood in his stride
But he was gone when autumn came
And still I dream he'll come to me
That we will live the years together
But there are dreams that cannot be
And there are storms we cannot weather
I had a dream my life would be
So different from this hell I'm living
So different now from what it seemed
Now life has killed the dream
I dreamed"

By the way i suggest you to get a better res monitor. You are welcome:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2798329954

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2798332639

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2798343625

Different lighting/outfit pics just in case anyone is gonna complaint.


Edit: And i can post Gestalt captures with full clear view or even directly quote the official short story "Witches' Sabbath" from the Grimore Nier where she masturbates with her MALE organ after killing shadows. But i think thats too explicit to post here anyway.
最後修改者:medion_no; 2022 年 4 月 22 日 下午 8:14
Atomic Skull 2022 年 5 月 2 日 上午 12:54 
引用自 CrowRising
his brings into question whether "Intersex" is the correct term to describe her, or if another term such as "Hermaphrodite" might be more on the mark.

The word you are looking for is "futanari"
最後修改者:Atomic Skull; 2022 年 5 月 2 日 上午 12:58
the Witch-King of Angmar 2022 年 5 月 4 日 上午 6:23 
mfw no Drakengard remaster
Lupe 2022 年 5 月 4 日 下午 5:36 
""Ugh… hah… hah, hah, hah, hah… haaaah…"

Had her wound reopened? Did she come out here to withstand the pain alone? Needing to know, I stepped forward.

"Are you all right? I can redress your wound…"

The mist lightened enough for me to see her form. I gave a sharp gasp once I had.
She really was possessed. The left half of her body swelled with unfathomable darkness, peculiar lumps circulating within it. It seemed as if another creature, with its own will, separate from the rest of her.

She had noticed me by then, so I did my best not to look disturbed. Repeating ‘all men are brothers’ in my mind like a prayer, I showed her a smile. But her gaze was turned downward. I followed it, my eyes were pulled toward what she held in her demonic left hand. The moment I comprehended what it was, all the hairs on my body were standing on end.

What she held in her hand was… a large, engorged male member… yet it was hers. Upon the swarthy organ there were littered many veins, which I could even clearly see throbbing.

She wasn’t merely possessed. She was of both sexes!

"On nights after I kill shades… …I can’t stop myself…""


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From the https://nier.fandom.com/wiki/Witches%27_Sabbath
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Yes she's a futanari, meaning she has both sexual organs ("She was of both sexes!"). It's due to a bug in the replication of her body, even if it's never stated if it happens everytime or if this Kainé is the first to get that...feature
It didn't happen because of the shade, she's born like that (that part is much clearer in the JP version when you have the description of her youth, the boys stripping her naked and laughing at her "freak" body).
But she considers herself as a woman, even with that little...addition. She's pretty insecure about it tho, hence why she wear overly sexualized outfit (that, and the fact that she wants to monitor the shade as revealed in Re[In]carnation)

About Emil, he went from being a clear dude to a ... thing. I think it transcend the concept of "transgender". He's just not human anymore. If one thing, it could be transhumanism
最後修改者:Lupe; 2022 年 5 月 4 日 下午 5:49
Hunk Survivor 2022 年 5 月 8 日 上午 10:18 
she had both genitals because the replicant body was defective.
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