Finished it, don’t really get the ending. (Spoilers)

[RobOda]

So, edden got us the job as the admin, sabotaged the engine to time travel (only launch window) because according to their predictions the moon was going to be destroyed by humanity regardless and it could not be stopped? So, by time travelling, we could pick up the pieces and act as an ark for humanity.

Do I understand that right?

But is she basically lying? Since by the final chapter she’s obscuring the planet Romulus and encouraging humanity to modify itself into space elves.

So, which is true? Is Romulus a real, viable planet? If you pick that option, Remus pretty much shuts down and doesn’t matter anymore. 🤔.

Or is this all a fever dream of the administrator, who clearly loves Star Trek (or Roman mythology whatever) and that last vohle jump basically liquified the remainder of their brain?

[RobOda]

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I wasn't impressed at the romulus and remus choice though. The green people said you had to adapt to their ways to avoid extinction..... only to cry that that they were about to go extinct when the evil drone ship appeared. And it was your technology and industrialized ways that offered the only hope to save them from the brink of death.

It was kinda of clear to me at that point that accepting their offer to live in "communion with nature" was a bad idea for the survival of the species. Disconnected EDDEN immediately.

It was a really, really, stupid "point" as well tbh.

I get the argument for moving away from capitalism and exploitation based society, but... even if you do that, you still need to have self-defence of some kind, lol, it's not like non-capitalist nations never bothered fielding a standing army or whatever.

And it's more stupid because the green people were being exterminated/discriminated to that extent by the UN/BMS (according to Chapter 3 if I remember it right), so they should have every reason to have some form of defensive capabilities.

Honestly, that final map sucks so bad IMO.

[Ukasz]

Escrito originalmente por XartaX:

I airlocked Edden instantly once I realized it was leading me to consort with xenos. I let the zombie ship eat them, and settled Romulus.

I don't see the difference between assimilating to some alien hippie commune and an alien spaceship. They deserved each other.

Fu*king xenos, kill them all. I only wish there was an option to violently purge them and take both planets.

technically they're not xenos, they are modified humans, no?

[XartaX]

Escrito originalmente por Ukasz:

Escrito originalmente por XartaX:

I airlocked Edden instantly once I realized it was leading me to consort with xenos. I let the zombie ship eat them, and settled Romulus.

I don't see the difference between assimilating to some alien hippie commune and an alien spaceship. They deserved each other.

Fu*king xenos, kill them all. I only wish there was an option to violently purge them and take both planets.

technically they're not xenos, they are modified humans, no?

That's Xenos. Anything not within the permissive biological range of an acceptable human is a xenos (or mutant if you want to be pedantic, still nonhuman). They've clearly gone far beyond abhuman, they fu**king photosynthesize. Purge them.

[hugedata]

I was incredibly disappointed with the endings. After all the headache that this game puts you through, they couldn't have sprung for an animated video instead of some childishly-drawn pictures?

The story is nonsense. They try to explain the whole point of this voyage by making up some alien time travel altered reality pseudoscience. Why did the moon blow up? Because it was inevitable. That is their answer?

[nail4000]

The ending made all the hours invested in the game the complete waste of time.
Lots of stuff (spheres/mirrors/bioship/etc) - zero logical explanation.
The DOLOS is at fault 100%, yet the narrative tells us about *bad* UN, BMS, etc.
Save the moon - stop the DOLOS.


If anyone is reading this before purchasing the game - don't buy it.
Unless it is reworked (or some sandbox added) - not worth it.

[amisianer]

Since people are already talking about the ending in here and I got spoiled by someone:

I'm at the end of chapter 2, the choice between copying Edden to the Protagoras or making a copy of the Protagoras AI for myself.

Now I'm wondering, if picking the wrong choice here will screw me out of getting to Romulus? Do I need the Protagoras Ai to be able to disable Edden? If not, what does this choice actually affect?

[martyr]

Escrito originalmente por nail4000:

The ending made all the hours invested in the game the complete waste of time.
Lots of stuff (spheres/mirrors/bioship/etc) - zero logical explanation.
The DOLOS is at fault 100%, yet the narrative tells us about *bad* UN, BMS, etc.
Save the moon - stop the DOLOS.


If anyone is reading this before purchasing the game - don't buy it.
Unless it is reworked (or some sandbox added) - not worth it.

Gotta leave something for the DLCs and sequel.

[XartaX]

Escrito originalmente por amisianer:

Since people are already talking about the ending in here and I got spoiled by someone:

I'm at the end of chapter 2, the choice between copying Edden to the Protagoras or making a copy of the Protagoras AI for myself.

Now I'm wondering, if picking the wrong choice here will screw me out of getting to Romulus? Do I need the Protagoras Ai to be able to disable Edden? If not, what does this choice actually affect?

No you can still go for Romulus even if you don't bring Protagoras. It's a very Mass Effect kind of ending where you push the blue or red button.

[RobOda]

Escrito originalmente por amisianer:

Since people are already talking about the ending in here and I got spoiled by someone:

I'm at the end of chapter 2, the choice between copying Edden to the Protagoras or making a copy of the Protagoras AI for myself.

Now I'm wondering, if picking the wrong choice here will screw me out of getting to Romulus? Do I need the Protagoras Ai to be able to disable Edden? If not, what does this choice actually affect?

That choice doesn’t matter at all.

You get the option to disable Eden via the humans on the station. It requires an external building.

[amisianer]

Thanks, guys.

[FragLeg]

Escrito originalmente por RobOda:

Ending.

Edden's last message:

Uhm, but that wasn't Edden, that was the Dolos CEO.

This is why Dolos ended up as "enemy of humanity" and was hunted down - the Dolos CEO knew this would happen when they start the engine and he didn't care, because he wanted to save humanity with the ship.

[MOK]

Lacking more information, my best guess is that there's a causality paradox wherein the VOHLE drive is the cause of the lunarclysm(hate that word) but Vanir Dolos is choosing to portray it as 'inevitable'. Or he's just straight lying and he's the absolute enemy of humanity.

An aside - I can't remember, but wasn't the first action you take in the solar system on the moon? What task did we do there?

But I'm also frustrated by the lack of clarity on a lot of things.
Why or how did the Ashtangites get there?
Why did they not use their CLEARLY and definitely vastly superior technology to brush aside the Piranessi? Their "we have no weapons/defenses" schtick was 100% inconsistent with prior clues about who they were and what they're capable of.

What's the story with BMS, the Marduk council guy who started it, and it's shift into it's present form?

How is Vanir Dolos able to, allegedly, see the future? Is it related to the affects of the mercury sea in the Ilia system?

If Vanir wants humans to become space chard in crystal spire eco authoritarian utopia, does that mean the Ashtangites were there before any of this? And if not, then how is this not a causality paradox?

On one hand, the writer wants to avoid too much clear answers, and allow for theories. On the other hand, some of these gaps are just hand-wave mud. I think that a bit more info in some places would've made the experience much more crisp and satisfying, but retains a clear range of potential for different theories, or better yet, interpretations. One thing that would've helped immensely, I think, would've been earning a solid and detailed info-drop index page that describes events up until(for example) the destruction of the Etemanaki. It wouldn't need to detail the things hidden from the public, including the physics weirdness, but basic facts about the factions' and big characters' origins should be accessible. there's things that make sense for us not to know, and things that it doesn't make sense that it's unknown.

I was completely on board and engaged with this story all the way till the end. But instead of leaving me with a handful of tantalizing and clear questions, it left me with a big muddle of un-focused vagueness.

[Razter]

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Escrito originalmente por XartaX:

I airlocked Edden instantly once I realized it was leading me to consort with xenos. I let the zombie ship eat them, and settled Romulus.

I don't see the difference between assimilating to some alien hippie commune and an alien spaceship. They deserved each other.

Fu*king xenos, kill them all. I only wish there was an option to violently purge them and take both planets.

Only good xeno is a dead xeno.

Purge the Heretic, The Mutant, The Xeno!

[Ginrikuzuma]

Escrito originalmente por nail4000:

If anyone is reading this before purchasing the game - don't buy it.
Unless it is reworked (or some sandbox added) - not worth it.

hows the music though? To my understanding its the same guy as Mechanicus and Mechanicus music was fire like promethium

[XartaX]

Escrito originalmente por Razter:

Escrito originalmente por Fat_Toad:

Only good xeno is a dead xeno.

Purge the Heretic, The Mutant, The Xeno!

Suffer not the Xeno to live.